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IJV Petrovic (Ijvpet)
New member Username: Ijvpet
Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 7:31 pm: | |
I actually considered buying a replica Ford GT40 MKI by ERA. It was very close to the original, including interior, engine and suspension specs. I have to say it was impressive. What stopped me from getting one was this point... regardless of which car is replicated, NOTHING beats having the original & NOTHING beats the fact that YOU know you've got the real thing brother!!! |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Junior Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 7:22 pm: | |
Granted, why waste money building a phoney kit of a 308 or Testarossa when you can buy the real thing. But what about a kit of one of the early cars like a 250LM or an early Testarossa? It's not like most people could ever buy one of those, even if any were for sale. And who could, or even would, actually attempt to insure and drive one of those million dollar museum pieces on the road? And I'm talking about real car enthusiast people; not billionaires. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1271 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 6:20 pm: | |
Some ferrari replicas are respectable. I saw one online of a 250GTO. It was tube frame and was nearly identical to an original. It wasnt built on a platform but was built from the ground up. |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Junior Member Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 200 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 6:05 pm: | |
Yesterday, I was driving my 328 when I spied a 355 up ahead. It had California plates, so I figured I would wave when I went by. But as I got closer, I saw that it was a kit, and moving slowly. I was disappointed actually and then wondered who would make/buy such a thing? What's really wierd is that you make/buy one and when you go to sell, they are worth very little. However, I do understand the vintage stuff, like cobras and GTO's made from GTE's. You can have a blast with these cars, especially on the track. I figure modern kits are bought by wannabes that want everyone to look at them. BTW, I did not wave at the kit driver. DAve |
Dave Mills (360dave)
Junior Member Username: 360dave
Post Number: 61 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 19, 2002 - 12:12 am: | |
I'm pretty sure that's an engine from a Camaro, with the alternator up top. And it seems like he would have mentioned how the engine went from the stock ~265hp up to 396hp. Or maybe that wasn't relevant compared to the formula 1 suspension (must be a stiff ride on the road ) |
Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall
Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 11:26 pm: | |
As someone who has a little firsthand knowledge of the kit scene, let me tell you spending in excess of what the actual car would have cost is not unusual. The days of buying a vw pan and throwing on a $600 body are long gone. Check out any kit site and almost every 308 replica will have over 30K invested. $40 and $50K TR and countach replicas are average and its not uncommon to see 80K-100K tr's and countachs. A base kit for most cars is around $6,000-$10,000, which is low end for a decent Lotus Esprit. What kills me is not that they've spent more than a real Fcar would have cost, its that a lot of them are JUNK! Check out how may 40-50K countachs/TR have the original V-6(not even detailed). What morons! Add to that the spaghetti wiring, the 4X4 look and the GM interior and you're set. By the way, how many countachs came from the factory with an AC-Delco eight track?
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Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 1870 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 11:01 pm: | |
Na, nothing wrong with just having a real Vette. I want the real thing Ferrari or Vette. |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 473 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:58 pm: | |
"Looks like it costs $175K!" What's the logic of spending more to build a replica than it would cost to buy the real thing? Maybe I should see if he's interested in some of those fake Rolexes. Only 50 grand... |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 4:22 pm: | |
I find these types of kit cars silly. I just dont see the point, as pointed out you can buy a real Ferrari or Lambo for similar or only a little bit more money. It just doesnt make any sense. However, there are lots of kit cars that make tons of sense. I would love to have one of the '59 Testarossa replicas that Norwood did. I saw a 250 GTO replica that sold for $175,000.00. It was a duplicate built from 250 GTE parts but on an exact replica frame and body, basically indistinguishable (sp?) from an original. I would LOVE to own that! Many vintage racing clubs would now allow it as would lots of the rally's. A replica like that is not meant to make people think its the real thing... its meant to let someone like me (not Bill Gates rich) to enjoy what driving a GTO would be like. I am giving serious consideration to my next car being a Beck 550 spyder. They sell for $25K an extremely good Porsche 550 replica with a hotrod 914 engine good for 160hp in a 1300lb car. They offer supercar performance in a gorgeous package. One of the top quality Cobra Daytona coupe replicas would also be great. How about an exact replica Norwood P4? There are some Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato replicas being done that perfect duplicates of the originals. I guess its the extremely high quality "duplicate" type replicas of historic supercars, ie. those with values in the stratosphere, that attract me. To be able to own one and really drive it as it was meant without worry to destroying something of immense value and historical importance is attractive to me. But a replica of mass produced exotic street car? Not me. |
Al Johnson (Bigal)
New member Username: Bigal
Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 3:46 pm: | |
The issue I have with all of these type kit cars posted on eBay is that they should NOT, I repeat NOT be listed as Ferraris. I know they're not Ferraris but it just rubs me the wrong way. |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 475 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 2:47 pm: | |
A fake is a fake. A fake Ferrari with all Ferrari parts is an expensive fake. |
D Jenn (Denman)
New member Username: Denman
Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 2:31 pm: | |
Okay, so what about a 1962 Ferrari 250GTO replica? or a Ferrari 250GT California? The real 250GTO would be way out of my league and even if I could afford one, I wouldn't risk taking it out for a drive. But a good replica? What do you guys think? |
Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1220 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:55 am: | |
I like this one- "This car will get you noticed if not married!" |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 474 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:42 am: | |
I'd buy it and re body it as a Fiero.
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BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd
Post Number: 497 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:35 am: | |
...you can buy with confidence too. This guy has -1 as eBay feedback????? And no, I would never buy a fake car like this. I don't wear a fake Rolex either. But then again, I don't wear a Rolex at all. :-) |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:32 am: | |
And to top it off, he used Porsche Guards Red paint instead of Ferrari Red--how stupid can you get. The F1 suspension looks like crap. |
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member Username: Amenasce
Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 9:42 am: | |
junk! why did he spend so much time and $$ to build a fake ? why not a design of his own or a project car ...Plus the body doesnt look as good as a real TR ...far from it |
Kevin Johnson (Jammy)
New member Username: Jammy
Post Number: 42 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 9:21 am: | |
Nooooooo. If you think this through, it would be an odd experience once the novelty had worn off. Peek inside, and it's clear that it's a replica, and it wouldn't sound like the original either. I suspect that it wouldn't be that satisfying to own (you would be making comparisons), and would devalue the experience of driving the original to boot. Even if it is a very good replica, YOU will know... And with all that 'F1 technology' , it may be more problematic than the original it apes. |
Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power
Post Number: 483 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 9:19 am: | |
You know what really blows my mind? Some of these guys actually spend major $$$ to build one of these fake things ($30K + for this one), when they could have bought a nice REAL 308, 328, Mondial, or even a 348. If its a Lambo they want, they could have bought a Jalpa. I know its not a Diablo or Countach, but owning a REAL one has to be much more exciting and rewarding than having a fake one. Ernesto |
ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member Username: Ross
Post Number: 186 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 8:49 am: | |
no way in hell. its like walking around with one of those fake rolexes, or gucci bag, or like marrying a woman who used to be a man.....its just not right and no self respecting ferrari lover should ever contemplate such lunacy. leave it to the wannabees with no class or taste. |
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member Username: Ronsupercar
Post Number: 173 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 8:41 am: | |
With the last couple of real or fake threads in mind, I came across this Testarossa Replica on E-bay.. Would anyone here consider purchasing this car as a daily driver and keep your original for weekend drives.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1843246217 With 396 HP, it would be faster than a 308 and the corvette engine will be easier and less expensive to maintain than a 308. What's your thoughts? |