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Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_0011

Post Number: 77
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 5:59 pm:   

Bah! If the Dino must have a six, it should be something carasmatic, like TVR's speed six motor in the Tuscan.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 1077
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 7:16 am:   

I too would like to see the return of the Dino marque with a V6 or V8 model or mayby even a entry level four cylinder. Ferrari won a lot of F1 races with four cylinder and V6 cars in the early days. Look what Honda has done with a four; 120hp per liter ! So if Ferrari would hire Honda to make its engines.....?
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_0011

Post Number: 75
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 1:03 am:   

I too would like to see Ferrari take on the Boxster. But not with a V6, a reworked V8 form the 360 would be nicer. :-)
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
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Username: Hugh

Post Number: 149
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 5:38 pm:   

Russell, Bill:

Not trying to beat a dead horse; as Ferrari will never build a $50K car, unless, we'll if GM builds it. Anyway, I don't want to keep defering to and making paralles b/w but, the TVR motor company has accomplished just what I've been refering to; baring the fact that they are NOT US legal, nor being imported to the US in the soon to be future, it's a pertinent example of what can happen when you cross-polinate, if you will, b/w models and chassis platforms, even Ferrari's have mundane shared components w/ Fiat's; window regulators, etc. Also, Porsche's Carrera and Boxster share a great deal of homogenity in components; it may not be Ferrari's prefered way to build car's as it is for nearly every contemprary motor car manufacture, but it could be a plausible way to curb development and production costs, while retaining limited production volume, and protecting the buyer and manufacture.

Then again, I'm just some kid w/ a keyboard.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 143
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 4:35 pm:   

a road legal F40 GTE would be nice ..with a passenger seat and aircon . 700 hp for 1000 kgs , 380 mms carbon discs , 6 speed sequential gearbox , 740 Nm , Red with Enkei wheels .


Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
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Username: Wsawyer

Post Number: 341
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 4:28 pm:   

Not to mention the fact that building a $50k car with 'intimately low production volumes' is impossible--but a great dream nonetheless.

russell rosenblum (Rosenblumr)
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Username: Rosenblumr

Post Number: 33
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 4:19 pm:   

I think part of the reason Ferrari would not come out with a 50K car is because the current system, with wait lists, protects both current owner resale values and the dealer network profit margins on those previously owned units.

Whereas I would like to see a 50K ferrari, it would fly in the face of the exclusivity, and antidepreciation mentality they have fought years to create.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member
Username: Hugh

Post Number: 147
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 4:09 pm:   

Russell:

I was going to allude to that very circumstance in my initial point, but decided not to shoot it in the foot that early. But, say you could catch early wind of prodcution; be the first to jump on the money train, it would be an absoloute gem. In my mind I see something reminiscent of the 330's lines, mid-engine, 3.0L v8, ~300 HP/300ft/lbs., flat torque curve, F1 tranny, massive brakes, carbon/kevlar race seats, integrated roll cage, xenon's, etc.

The 360 yes, was going to be Ferrari's entry level car, however, lately, w/ the induction of the z06 and many other sterling performers; aesthetic preferences aside, the 360 has retained Ferrari's unnatainable grandure; for common folk like me, the $50K I could swing, $120 I'm under DEEP water. For comparison as to what I'm looking for reference the TVR Tamora; brilliant car and would come in roughly around $60K, one hell of a car, to bad they have the ancestoral british reliability.
russell rosenblum (Rosenblumr)
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Username: Rosenblumr

Post Number: 32
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 4:00 pm:   

Hugh:

I hate to see the wait list on the 50K ferrari. You might be spending 120K now or 50K in 8 years!!!

Seriously the 360 was supposed to be the entry car at an "affordable" 141K. Then the conv. comes out for about 165, and sells for 260?!?

I can only fear the costs of a 50K unit.
Chuck Babel (Chuck_98_rt10)
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Username: Chuck_98_rt10

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 3:44 pm:   

V6??? Gawd, I don't ever want to see a V6 in a Ferrari. Only V8, V10 or V12.
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Junior Member
Username: Hugh

Post Number: 146
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 1:40 pm:   

How about an "entry" level F car? Something potent, small, and fun, yet toping the MSRP charts at a "mere" $50K? Something akin, perhaps, to the Lotus Elise, but more Italian in spirit and design, and retaining the Ferrari mystique w/ intimatly low production volume, and very bare bone accomodations, anyone?
Robert Jude Klein (Rjklein4470)
Junior Member
Username: Rjklein4470

Post Number: 131
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:56 pm:   

I want a Hamburger, I want a hotdog...
Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member
Username: Tenney

Post Number: 186
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:28 am:   

Gotta go along w/Bill on the de-contented, purpose-built 575 idea. Same would be nice in a 360 variant. With seemingly more and more people doing track days, and fewer stepping up to the Challenge series, these more-focused cars could be driven to the track. Maybe a similar (though less costly) Challenge-like arrangement could be made where dealers bring Hoosiers, SRF, pads, etc and service the cars at the track for customers who'd desire such an option.
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 179
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:20 am:   

I never said the V6 had to be stock..

You got to figure, if Ferrari came up with a V6 engine it would have to out do every other V6 our there. Ferrari would not put something out there that would be eqaul to the Porsche Boxter..
ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member
Username: Ross

Post Number: 191
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:14 am:   

i guess i have 2 dreams. i agree w/ peter, i would love to see a mucielago type of ferrari, at about the same cost....
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Junior Member
Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 79
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:14 am:   

Surprise the world and put a V12 back in a mid-engined supercar.
Peter K. (Bubba)
Junior Member
Username: Bubba

Post Number: 71
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:11 am:   

I want to make something as stunning or more than the Testarossa.
arthur chambers (Art355)
Member
Username: Art355

Post Number: 522
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:09 am:   

How about a 360, improved with another 50hp, and designed to look similar to the 355, with the weight down to say 2500#s. It would also have a removal top, built in roll bar, activated when the car is 55% off of level. And priced at say 100k. Not likely.


Art

bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member
Username: Bws88tr

Post Number: 505
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 10:06 am:   

i simply would love to see/own a 512tr convertible, that doesnt leak, thats not too far fetched, is it?
Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
Junior Member
Username: Jussumfastgi

Post Number: 140
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 9:59 am:   

I'm sorry, unless they could get the car under 2400LB a 300hp car would have a very very short life with all the "new" fast 500hp+ cars coming out around 3000 - 3500lbs
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn

Post Number: 478
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 9:54 am:   

A 246 with about 300 HP would be cool. Just don't make it a Boxster knock off!
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Junior Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 178
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 9:44 am:   

I Love the idea of a newly designed Dino with a 300hp V6 engine.

And to bring back the 288 GTO and 250 GT California sypder
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member
Username: Wsawyer

Post Number: 337
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 9:20 am:   

I want to see a stripped down 575. Light weight, maybe a little smaller and more nimble. A backroad banzai machine.
ross koller (Ross)
Junior Member
Username: Ross

Post Number: 189
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 8:49 am:   

i would like to see a fully retractable hardtop (ala sl55), on the 575m. that would be a perfect car.
russell rosenblum (Rosenblumr)
New member
Username: Rosenblumr

Post Number: 31
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 8:21 am:   

I would find a way to put a convertable hardtop (aka mercedes 500SL) onto a 360 spyder. A truly all season perfect car. sure add a few HP and maybe a V10 while I'm at it.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Junior Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 141
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 5:00 am:   

a new Dino...V6/V8 Mid Engine , 330/350 Hp , 3 liters , weight of 1100 kgs , 350 mm discs , F1 gearbox !
Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Junior Member
Username: Mr_0011

Post Number: 74
Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 1:53 am:   

OK, so say your the big cheese at Ferrari. What would the models be like?

I for one would like to see a V10 in the Modena sucessor. About 4-5 liters, 9,000rpm. And a target weight of under 3000lb.

Discuss. :-)

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