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Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
New member
Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 50
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 3:35 pm: | |
Hi Doody! I forgot about this thread, so sorry for the delay. Anyway, about the odd numbers: in the beginning Ferrari used EVEN numbers for all their race cars and ODD numbers for all street cars. When they reached 75000, they somehow decided to start using even numbers for the road cars too ... |
Red Lindell (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead
Post Number: 32
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 6:16 pm: | |
Like Viken said, Headlight washers are for NON-US cars. As far as dealers working on them, FNA does not seem to mind. The dealers can order parts for Euro specific cars from FNA no problem. As well, FNA does not have to put out any $ for any warranty items. |
Steve Will (V10_nut)
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Username: V10_nut
Post Number: 8
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 6:13 pm: | |
Quickest way to tell a Euro from U.S. that I've found is to look at the rear license plate area. The U.S. is only slightly larger than a standard U.S. license plate. A Euro will have a much wider mounting area for their plates. |
Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
Junior Member
Username: Vikenb
Post Number: 127
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 6:03 pm: | |
>> The headlight washers are part of the car if you order xenon (HID) lights (not market specific) <<
In the US, you don't get the washers with the HID headlights. |
Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Junior Member
Username: Jfraser
Post Number: 102
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 5:32 pm: | |
Terry,
The headlight washers are part of the car if you order xenon (HID) lights (not market specific) |
Terry Daniel (Dogue)
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Username: Dogue
Post Number: 20
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 7:14 am: | |
The best way is definately the VIN#, but visually don't euro models have headlight washers and US models do not? The US side markers were added to Euro cars when they were imported. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Junior Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 104
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 6:55 am: | |
edvar - that is by far the best ferrari vin information i've ever seen on the net. very cool! thanks!
does anybody know why they only used odd S/Ns for that period? seems like a curious practice...
doody. |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
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Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 47
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 6:35 am: | |
For the VIN, look at my site:
http://www.red-headed.com/vin.html |
Howie F. (Brokerofexotics)
Junior Member
Username: Brokerofexotics
Post Number: 138
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 2:40 pm: | |
Doody,
You're right. I just ran a VIN for a Euro 360 and a US 360. The 4th - 8th position show "unknown".
Thank you for clarifying.
Howie |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Junior Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 97
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 11:41 am: | |
howie - that particular decoder specifically ignores the data re: the market the car was manufactured for.
doody. |
Howie F. (Brokerofexotics)
Junior Member
Username: Brokerofexotics
Post Number: 137
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 11:04 am: | |
Calvin,
Here is a link for a VIN decoder. Just type in the VIN, and it will break down the meaning of each number and letter. It's a free service and pretty darn cool.
http://www.analogx.com/contents/vinview.htm |
TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 386
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 10:56 am: | |
many do not- I don't think all, I think they are wary of reprecussions from FNA |
Erick Gravel (Erickg)
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Username: Erickg
Post Number: 18
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 10:34 am: | |
Local dealers wont work on a converted euro spec?
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Tony Cantafio (Tonycan)
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Username: Tonycan
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 10:16 am: | |
Take the car to your local Ferrari Dealer. If he works on it, it's a U.S. car; if he doesn't, it's European. |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Junior Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 156
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 6:36 pm: | |
I thought we were talking about 308s. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 5:43 pm: | |
What started different depends upon what non-US country it was destined for. When it was imported, some of those things may get changed as part of the import process. Most of the things that are different are fairly cosmetic.
The reliable way to know if it is a genuine US (or more precisely, North American) model is to check the VIN... it should have an A in the 8th digit. If you're worried about a bogus VIN, try checking it with CarFax.
HTH,
Brian
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Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Junior Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 155
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 4:53 pm: | |
Bumpers on Euro are tucked in more.
Side marker lights are diff.
The rear bonnett connects on a Euro car where on a US spec car is has the grill.
The Euros have one distributor.
On the front turn signal lenses there is a white section of light where on the US it is solid orange.
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Mr. Doody (Doody)
Junior Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 95
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 3:44 pm: | |
in theory, the eighth digit of the VIN should tell you the market it was made for. A=us; B=euro; C=uk RHD; etc.
doody. |
Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member
Username: Manu
Post Number: 76
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 3:39 pm: | |
One easy way of telling from the exterior:
US models has larger rectangular indicators on the front wings and rears...
Euro models have standard dot-style indicators in front of the door alone. (look nicer) |
Calvin Chung (Cchung)
New member
Username: Cchung
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2002 - 3:35 pm: | |
I'm starting to look for a '00 or '01 360 Modena and was wondering how you can tell a Euro model from a US model. Thanks for any help. |