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| Parker (Fletch)
New member Username: Fletch Post Number: 13 Registered: 3-2002 |
Thanks again Martin. I am located in Westerville, Ohio (a northeast suburb of Columbus). If anyone has had a good or bad experience with an independent Ferrari service shop near me, please let me know. I have heard that there is actually one in Westerville, but haven't heard any good/bad comments on it yet. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2538 Registered: 5-2001 |
Parker, I have never seen a 1995 GTB but will assume that there are a few. As I said they did not make a lot of TBs in the frist place compared to the TS and then late run of Spiders but I am sure there are some 1995 TBs. A normal 30K at a authoriozed Ferrari dealer will run you $ 7,000. Those are the bills I have seen sofar. If you go independant you can get it done for $ 5,000. It is 40h of labor and parts will run you $ 2,000. May want to do the waterpump at this time as well just preventively ($1000) Nick can help you get it at a reasonable price. First thing you need to do is find an independent shop somewhere close by. The F-dealer will kill you in service. Post where you live and you will get referrals here from the guys. The 30K is a service with engine out. In truth though the service book only states check the timing belt and replace if necessary. Have the whole thing done anyways. As I said before, it is not the belt that goes bad but the pully and the tensioners. If you have a good ear you can hear the timing belt flapping when the engine is cold. Sure sign of an immediate 30K service required. If a owner claims the 30K had been done make sure to see who did it and get the invoice to prove that the engine was in fact out. Not many people spend the cash it requires and that is why you see so many 348 and 355s coming for sale when the big one is needed. Some just do the check the belt-inspection and sell it to you as with the 30K service done. That 30K you want to do every 5 years or 15K Miles. I will have bmy belts checked at 15K and if they look lose or the tensioners look they have issues the engine comes out again. 30K is the max you sould go though and or 10 years. common sense rules, all others pay dearly! | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 138 Registered: 4-2002 |
oh, forgot, mines Giallo Fly, which in itself tends to attract a premium, purely due to lower numbers available I guess. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 137 Registered: 4-2002 |
got a '91 348TS, bought it two months ago with 2650 miles on the clock, now has 3000, no probs as yet other than oil TEMP gauge not showing a reading ever (can be considered a design issue and therefore quite normal, or indicative of a gauge/sender problem depending on who you believe), but early days I guess. I paid high but the cars mint, could have had a 30K mile newer spider for the same money but it wore its miles badly, also could have had any number of TB's or TS's for about £10K less, depends what you value (I wanted 'MINT') and what you want to use it for, you pays yer money. | ||
| Parker (Fletch)
New member Username: Fletch Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2002 |
Thanks for the help Martin. I had a feeling that you might reply to this post!  I have seen you talk about the 348's before and you seem very knowledgeable on the subject. The 348tb that I saw for 50k was actually a ’93, but it didn’t have the 30k mile service done yet. How much does the 30k service cost, when done by an authorized Ferrari tech? Does the 30k service have to come only at 30k or is there also a time issue involved. I have seen cars with less than 20k and the dealer states that the car has just completed a 30k service on it. Do you know if they even made the 348tb’s in 1995 or did they just make 348 spiders and the 355? I have never actually seen a ’95 348tb in person, but I have seen and driven a couple of 93’ and ‘94’s. Thanks again for your help Martin. Does anyone else have any comments on/experience with the reliability of the 348’s? | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2535 Registered: 5-2001 |
Tom and Bruce.... tse tse tse what can I say. pumping up my stats. I finally made it to be a Veteran. Now I can do a Mika and retire, right? | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2534 Registered: 5-2001 |
(crumple,crumple, rolling up my sleeves] I have yet to see 1994 TBs, which are really GTBs in the $45-$50K range. You are talking late model 348s and these should be at the high $50s to low $60s, depending on miles. There is a big difference that you have to be aware of when it comes to service. You may buy a car with 25,000 Miles that had all its service done but is due for the 30K in 5K Miles, or you can buy a car with 29K Miles with the 30K done, which is worth actually more than the other. I just have the same problem, where the TS I have just received a new clutch and full engine out 30K service and people want to offer me a price as if it was a car that needs these things done, because nobody knows what the true cost is. There are not many late model TBs that were built. Since they came with the SPider that time around the Spiders were the real 348s being built at that time. YOu may want to look for a earlier TB or even TS with the roof painted unless you have the desire to track your car more often, then the TB is the better choice. If you care to track then you should not look for the perfect car though. As for unreliability that is very untrue. I am driving a 348, 1991 since 2 1/2 years and had nothing out of the extraordinary. Filled in too much oil in the first month (my fault), had a 30K done (normal) had a clutch replaced (being stupid, trying F-1 starts at the traffic light)some oil changes and the only thing we can not figure out yet a check engine light that comes on and off depending on the weather. It is a false reading. May go away when I install the test pipes. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 603 Registered: 4-2002 |
parker, i second that answer of toms,plus you will be thoughly entertained by his answers im sure.. bruce | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1130 Registered: 9-2001 |
martin will be along - he is the 348 expert and it will give him a chance to pump his post stats | ||
| Parker (Fletch)
New member Username: Fletch Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2002 |
I was wondering if any of you know what the current “realistic” price for a late model (i.e. 1993-1995) 348tb would be? The car would need to be red/black or possibly red/tan with fairly low mileage (under 25,000) and in excellent condition with up to date service and all records. I say “realistic” price because I have seen cars like this at Ferrari dealers for as high as $85,000 and then seen similar cars sold by private parties for around $45,000-$50,000. I understand that dealers mark-up the price of their cars, but there is a huge difference between 45k and 85k for basically the same car! What are people actually paying for these late model 348’s? If any of you have experience with buying/selling a 348 could you please let me know what the car went for and if these cars are really the unreliable nightmare cars that they are made out to be by dealers and magazines (i.e. the Forza buying guide). I was considering the 328 since it appears to be very reliable, but I really prefer the body style of the 348 and I, unfortunately, can’t afford a 355. Thanks for your help. |