| Author | Message | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 364 Registered: 4-2001 |
That's great to hear Mitch! I'm glad you were refunded, but by no means in Mr. Sawyerr's efforts. I'm still not satisfied. Anyone else? I'd still like to persue this further. If the emails are flying around in the background, please include me in on the list. Thanks! =D | ||
| Mitch P (Mitchp)
New member Username: Mitchp Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2002 |
The terrible thing about this jerk is that he ruins it for legitimate people. I bought the ticket because this type of raffle is very common in the Harley universe, and I commonly buy a ticket in these...I never win but the money goes to help good causes and I like to encourage those who raise money for them. It also helps to donate the money in a way that if anything goes wrong, like mr sawyerr, you have a good recourse. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2619 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mitch PA. you have redeemed yourself!  | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 54 Registered: 2-2002 |
CONGRATULATIONS MITCH! That's one person who got his money back, I guess that just leave a couple hundred or thousand left. GOOD JOB!! I guess Paypal isn't as bad as we thought. | ||
| Mitch P (Mitchp)
New member Username: Mitchp Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2002 |
Recovered from Paypal the funds sent to this goniff. PayPal has concluded our investigation of your Buyer Complaint. ------------------------------ Complaint Details ------------------------------ Transaction Date: 07/29/2002 Transaction Amount: -$100.00 Case Number: PP-001-490-488 Seller's Name: Chris Sawyerr Seller's Email: [email protected] Our investigation has determined that the seller is at fault, and as a result we have attempted to recover your funds. $100.00 has been credited to your account. This is the maximum amount we were able to recover. Please allow up to 5 days for this adjustment to be reflected in your account. We appreciate your business, and regret this experience. | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 53 Registered: 2-2002 |
I hope Chris is running right now because if he gets caught you know he'll definitely get Sawyerred behind bars. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2002 |
And this waas posted in the classified section of KitKar.com Ad No.: 194 - Subject: wanted lamborghini diablo turnkey - Posted on: 08/21/01 Reply to: chris sawyerr at [email protected] I need to purchase a Lamborghini diablo replica for less than $40,000. Thanx Chris Think maybe he was going to sell it to someone and try to pass it off as the real thing? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2002 |
He's been at this for a long time. Check this out. It's from a year ago. http://www.mbworld.org/forum/w215/board/messages/580.html | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 513 Registered: 10-2001 |
You're S.O.L. "Sawyerred out of Luck!" I can't do anything from Canada and besides, I didn't send any money. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 406 Registered: 2-2002 |
That's right Warren. And my brother--Chris Sawyer without the double R--is even more upset. He's an automotive journalist and doesn't want this guys antics hurting his reputation. | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
Junior Member Username: Warren Post Number: 52 Registered: 2-2002 |
Bill is especially upset because he almost has the same last name as Chris. | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 405 Registered: 2-2002 |
You and me both, Andre | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 688 Registered: 4-2002 |
meanwhile, with all the hoop-la about this asswipe, no-one has done ••••.. i live in nj and cant possible do anything here.. what about the people that were going to pay him or the address a visit in n.c. last week, where are they?? the people that sent him 100.00, did you ever get a refund??? let us know, instead of talking about it, do something....i lost nothing with this jack-off, but want this j.o. not to hurt anyone else.. | ||
| Andre Vieira (Goggles_pisano)
New member Username: Goggles_pisano Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jay, that is too funny! I think we have a new verb here: "Oh man, I put 50 cents in, and that damn Coke machine Sawyerred me!" I think it would be important to keep the extra "r" in there to avoid confusion. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 512 Registered: 10-2001 |
That auction looks suspiciously Sawyerr! | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Junior Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 87 Registered: 8-2002 |
Notice that auction is almost over and not a single bid. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 360 Registered: 4-2001 |
Does Chris have a cousin in Pittsburgh? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849780064 | ||
| Malcolm Barksdale (Malcolmb)
New member Username: Malcolmb Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2002 |
I recently bid on luggage on ebay. After losing I was contacted by "Chris" who said he had a set to sell. After agreeing on a price I suggected UPS collect to protect us both. Never heard from him again. Time to do something here, he is clearly a scammer.malcolmb | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 376 Registered: 11-2001 |
fyi/fwiw, i have contacted tucows and siteprotect to inform them of what's happening. hopefully they might act. has anybody contacted AOL yet? that's where his email is. IME, AOL has a low tolerance for anything fuzzy like this and might shut him off. i'll leave that for another informed citizen here. doody. | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2002 |
It looks like we have another address for Chris... Registrant: CityCarBrokers LLC 4606 Regency Drive Durham, NC 27713 US Domain Name: CITYCARBROKERS.COM Administrative Contact: Sawyerr, Chris [email protected] 4606 Regency Drive Durham, NC 27713 US 9194895395 Technical Contact: DNS, Administrator [email protected] 1 N State Street 12th Floor Chicago, IL 60602 US 312-236-2132 Fax: 312-236-1958 Registration Service Provider: Site Protect Name Services, [email protected] 312 236 2132 Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 25-Jul-2002. Record expires on 25-Jul-2004. Record Created on 25-Jul-2002. Domain servers in listed order: NS.SITEPROTECT.COM 64.26.0.23 NS2.SITEPROTECT.COM 64.26.38.2 | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2607 Registered: 5-2001 |
Mitch, you are a lawyer for crying out loud! Why would you fall for this? You are kidding right? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 543 Registered: 2-2001 |
Come on, guys! I can't believe not one person here lives close to that address to go check it out? I just hate that this will go on unresolved. It looks as if I am going to have to get on a plane... Ernesto | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2002 |
This Sucks. It's a fact, criminals do get away sometimes (too many times.) | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
New member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2002 |
Guess what? There's a poor guy on Tom Yang's Ferrari restoration forum that has also been screwed over by this guy! How long has this been going on? http://www.tomyang.com/cars/ferrari.html | ||
| Mitch P (Mitchp)
New member Username: Mitchp Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2002 |
and a $100 from me | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 673 Registered: 4-2002 |
any news from him dave?? anything positive from that scumbag? | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 227 Registered: 4-2001 |
$100.00 from me... | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 45 Registered: 2-2002 |
Quick Question: How many FerrariChat members sent Chris money and how much? Let's get a tally of how much Mr. Sawyerr took from our fellow chat room members. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 507 Registered: 10-2001 |
Maybe he is on one of these sites http://www.oag.state.tx.us/child/wanted/cse_new.htm Con artists usually start at home. I wouldn't be surprised to learn he owes child support! | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 64 Registered: 1-2002 |
Here is the email for the chief of police in Durham, NC. It might be a good idea for us (especially those who have had direct involvement with Chris) to email him directly with the information we have gathered. mailto:[email protected] | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 364 Registered: 11-2001 |
PayPal unfortunately stinks. They are an unregulated bank. They cover nobody's ass but their own. At least in the credit card business the consumer is protected. With PayPal nobody is protected. I don't know how they get away with it. doody. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 225 Registered: 4-2001 |
I just got a email back from paypal saying that they won't do •••• about Chris Sawyerr ripping people off through paypal..... They will get no more of my business! | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Junior Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 109 Registered: 2-2002 |
Some states have a law where the criminal must deliver the goods that were promised. In this case Chris would actually have to buy a 360 and proceed with the raffle. | ||
| Steve (V10_nut)
New member Username: V10_nut Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2002 |
I think a fitting trubute to Mr. Sawyerrrrs contribution to this site would be a crisp photo of him properly attired in prison orange with silver accenting handcuffs. How about on Sept. 1st, the day he was supposed to be handing over the keys to the Modena. Good luck all...please make an example out of him. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 579 Registered: 6-2001 |
You guys have WAAAY too much time on your hands. | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 42 Registered: 2-2002 |
This Just In: An unidentified man expected of scamming dozens of high profile customers has been seen purchasing dozens of Ferraris and Ferrari parts. It is believed that the scammer, afraid for his life, is attempting to make amends with all of his victims. It is believed that there is an underground reward over 10.00 for his seizure. | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 363 Registered: 2-2002 |
This is the funniest thread I've ever read on this site. Only Mitch and his dead donkey/Enron story come close. Nice one guys. cheers Manu P.S. Don't let him get away. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 362 Registered: 11-2001 |
can anyone please forward me an email from chris ([email protected]) with all (ALL) of the headers? i am trying to push this with ebay, and i deleted all of this jerk's incoming email unfortunately. they won't proceed without this (but they didn't blow me off, so that's a good sign). my email is in my profile. doody. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 361 Registered: 11-2001 |
guys, i think this dude is a scumbag. but you need to be thoughtful about what amount to threats of physical violence or death. there are laws about that sort of stuff. i run a business that is all about communities on the Internet. i can tell you that one of the few things that law enforcement will act upon (they rarely act on ANYTHING) are threats of bodily harm and death threats. so, let's get this moron locked up where he's likely to "enjoy" being some dude named bubba's beeyatch, but be careful about what you threaten. doody. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1213 Registered: 9-2001 |
now that is funny | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 656 Registered: 4-2002 |
barry lol....just peed in my pants..... bruce | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2592 Registered: 5-2001 |
NEWS JUST IN: TALIBAN Chris has been seen fleeing the area right before his base was hit in a marked eBay-Ambulance | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Junior Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 219 Registered: 2-2002 |
Mission successful. Returning to base.  | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 224 Registered: 4-2001 |
maybe we could have a raffle... and the winning ticket holder could have his or her choice of punishment.... Ya know, I'm thinking that every ticket holder would end up winning! | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 655 Registered: 4-2002 |
i have come to the conclusion that all you guys are all f@#ED UP LIKE ME... i guess we all are not busy in our professions lately... bruce | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Junior Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 217 Registered: 2-2002 |
Open bomb bay doors!  | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 358 Registered: 4-2001 |
So who is going to pay this little fellow a visit? If you do... please please please, bring a camera or even better yet a camcorder! that would rock. to see his expression. hmmmm. but seriously, don't you think this should be a private forum/thread or else he'll know what we're up to when we really get down to business. | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 355 Registered: 11-2001 |
I bet DaveL can find that view of the aerial photo from where he sits  -- wonder what the "payload-of-the-day" is (?). | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2002 |
Chris, Aren't you excited about all of this buzz? And it's all for you! I can't wait to see what you look like. I hope you are over 21. What if Chris turns out to be like 12 years old? | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 654 Registered: 4-2002 |
the word "connected" i love, um, i know some "bada bing boys" bruce | ||
| Dave L (Davel)
Junior Member Username: Davel Post Number: 199 Registered: 7-2001 |
Im..uh somewhat connected to the Navy Martin!! | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2589 Registered: 5-2001 |
okay, I have a friend in the Airforce. Anybody with Navy connections? Tom has a point here. We call it "Operation Dessert Sawyerr" and claim, like the Israelis, we are ridding the earth of Terrorists. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1212 Registered: 9-2001 |
lol, you guys are great - now if we have a connection with some gunships near by we can send him a gift | ||
| John Ames (Ameshouse)
Junior Member Username: Ameshouse Post Number: 63 Registered: 1-2002 |
here is the ariel photograph from Mapquest.  | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
New member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2002 |
That address has been on his webpage the whole time. No one had noticed it before? I should have more info soon. | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member Username: Litig8r Post Number: 97 Registered: 6-2001 |
If you have a mail drop address, you can subpoena the drop's records and find out all his info. Mail drops (by law now I think) have to obtain verified personal info on the renter, to protect against kiddie porn rings and the like I think. Or just go to the drop and explain what can be done by way of subpoena etc. and they may tell you the info voluntarily to avoid being hit with a subpoena. | ||
| S. P. (512tr1994)
New member Username: 512tr1994 Post Number: 17 Registered: 6-2002 |
4711 Hope Valley Road Durham, NC 27707  Here's a wider view  | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 531 Registered: 2-2001 |
There has to be somebody on this list who can check out that address, it could be his apartment, a private mailbox, a business, etc etc. Either way, thats a lead. I wish I lived in NC, I would take a day off just for that! http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?BFCat=&Pyt=Tmap&newFL=Use+Address+Below&addr=4711+Hope+Valley+Road+&csz=Durham%2C+NC++27707+&Country=us&Get%A0Map=Get+Map Ernesto | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2582 Registered: 5-2001 |
I was trying to see if I can get some more out of him. Jason, saves me the post of my findings from yesterday. Thanks guys for sendiong some of the e-mails private. I think he is on to me already. After I told him COD and or escrow agent I have not heard from him again. I think that there are possibly enough people out there who have been hurt. Maybe it is time to post a eBay auction for the information of Chris Sawyerr. Make sure to put Ferrari in the headline somewhere. I think you have a fair chance of getting him. I believe that it is well worth it to spend $ 3,000 one somebody that stole $1000 from you just to bring him to justice. Just the vindication is worth every penny. I also think that this is a Federal offense so the FBI will get involved. You may have to do the legwork though. Go after him, please, take him out. | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member Username: Godsil Post Number: 113 Registered: 9-2001 |
I contacted the guy who Chris was trying to sell the 348 bumpers to and here is what he sent me. I hope this helps. I have received a address from him to send my check to: Hi Martin Please send the check to my business address at: Chris Sawyerr Citycarbrokers LLC #219 4711 Hope Valley Road Durham NC 27707 Thanks Chris After I told him to COD he would not respond to me anymore. His e-mail is: [email protected] You should be able to file suite in NC and sopena aol records for identity as well as eBay records. If you get enough people you may file a class action suit and get the FBI involved. This is a federal crime and most cases are above $300 so these are fellony charges to be brought against him, not misdemeaners. Hope you catch him. Martin CAVALLINO MOTORS 1111 Kane Concourse, Suite 502 Bay Harbor Islands, Florida 33154-2043 phone: (305) 867-7676 fax: (305) 867-7901 www.4Ferrari.com | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 433 Registered: 12-2001 |
I am willing to help here, but only by email, not by public posting. Somebody who is good at Internet tracing should be designated as the info collector, and work with a couple of others to act as a team.You guys should figure out who among you wants to act as the point person. All others with info should then contact that person privately. If you guys don't get anywhere with your attempt to trace this dude, i know some people who might be able to help. Ultimately, local law enforcement may do a better job of nailing him than charities, fbi, etc., all of whom have limited resources, and bigger fish to fry. My email is [email protected] (BTW, i have handled a couple of internet matters over the years). | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 575 Registered: 6-2001 |
I have a thought: If someone actually paid this guy through paypal, file suit against him (in a court other than small claims, where there is no discovery), subpeana his paypal records, AND his banking records (once you have the paypall records. Anyone know where paypal is located? That is where the suit needs to be filed. If on the West Coast, I can do it, if not maybe Frank? Art | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
New member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 10 Registered: 8-2002 |
I should be able to dig up more information tomorrow with his IP address. | ||
| Paul (Pcelenta)
Junior Member Username: Pcelenta Post Number: 56 Registered: 7-2002 |
he was pretty slick...he blocked all his feedback...though you can see that he had 7 reports of negative feedback...just can't see what it was...you have to e-mail him direct to find out...amazing how ebay kinda protects this a-hole unknowingly. | ||
| Doug Meredith (Doug308)
Junior Member Username: Doug308 Post Number: 175 Registered: 2-2001 |
Goto ebay and search his email address that someone posted below. Look at his feedback and email the people that he did business with that gave positive feedback. See if they can provide you with the shipping or receiving address of auctions that he won or was the seller. | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member Username: Litig8r Post Number: 96 Registered: 6-2001 |
I would bet that those two large charities would sick their legal team on him. People like "Chris" hurt their ability to fundraise. This type of thing must happen to them all the time, and they'd probably love to have someone made an example of. Man, I wouldn't want to have a multi-billion dollar charity's legal team on my ass! This jerk's achille heel is gonna be Paypal. He must have a way to get the money that peeps send him, whether paypal mails it to him or wire transfer to a bank account. Either way, the canceled check will have his bank account info, or the wire transfer will identify his bank and account #. It's very difficult to open a phony bank account, you usually have to present ID, SS#, way more than the average thief will do. If we look there, we'll find this guy. In the future Chris, you may want to try and steal from poor people. The people on this board have the resources to ruin your life. | ||
| Jeff Ross (Rsbiomedical)
New member Username: Rsbiomedical Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2001 |
Simile a individui questo dovrebbe finire di solito su l'essere trovato nel dumpsters. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 494 Registered: 10-2001 |
Magnum P.I. Baby!!!!! | ||
| D B (Threesixty)
New member Username: Threesixty Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2002 |
I was able to find his IP address, ran a little check and came up with *Manassas, VA 20109*. Anyone live there? | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Junior Member Username: Dave Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2001 |
Chris Sawyerr, or what ever your true name might be.... I know you must stop by and read the comments left about you... And the only thing I can think of is, you must be one very frightened person... You must now be realizing as things start to unfold that you have had intercourse with the wrong people... You poor soul! | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member Username: Litig8r Post Number: 95 Registered: 6-2001 |
Interesting piece on internet scammers - http://www.msnbc.com/news/790212.asp?pne=msn I guess John Cougar (Mellencamp) was right - "An honest man's pillow is his piece of mind". Also, if this dude has a verified Paypal account, the Paypal dudes have his bank account #.... | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 40 Registered: 2-2002 |
Dear Mr. Sawyerr, Where are you and what have you been doing for the past couple days? Please drop us another note to let us know that you are not at the bottom of the ocean somewhere. Or if you are still alive, please say hi to Osama for us. | ||
| S. P. (512tr1994)
New member Username: 512tr1994 Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2002 |
Guys, Looks like CHRIS is still going strong.... Martin just got an email solicitation from him.....Chris is NOT gonna stop until he is caught and put behind bars.... If anyone else gets an email from him...please keep it silent and play along with his offer and get info...just don't send him any money... I hope you are reading this CHRIS...because the next person you email could be one of us and when we get a hold of you we will beat the crap out of you... Chris, Watch your back and sleep with one eye open b/c we are after you... | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 641 Registered: 4-2002 |
no problem martin we will get this s.o.b. some how, some way.. regards, bruce | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2573 Registered: 5-2001 |
Bruce, unfortunately I started that in a cloud of absent mind. I should have posted the result after. Sorry. I did e-mail him for the address and phone number. Hope he does not pop in here before. Sorry. This is what I wrote to e-Bay. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2572 Registered: 5-2001 |
This e-Bay member is known to defraud people. He is consitantly offering same items for sale and does not have them neither will ever deliver them. He is defrauting the system and innocent customers. This is the offering I have received: To member: investprop From member: cmpbiz -------------------- I can offer you a 348 Front bumper that is unused and in pristine condition for $800 and split the shipping costs with you. It is factory made and not an aftermarket product. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks Chris -------------------- This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and not through eBay. eBay does not tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is taking steps to protect members from this abuse. In addition, solicitations to buy or sell items outside of eBay violate eBay rules and are not covered by services that protect members such as feedback, insurance, escrow, and dispute resolution. If this is an offer to buy/sell items outside of eBay, please do not participate. Enter the following link into your browser to learn more. Link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/email_info.html This is a link in which his dealings have been greatly discussed. Please also note that he has offered a lottery for a Ferrari in the past, selling tickets for $100 all proceeds to charity. None of the Charities did know about his lottery. His address is phony and so is his phone number. It is time you take this guy off the web! http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/98616.html?1028574173 | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Member Username: Jay Post Number: 488 Registered: 10-2001 |
This guy makes it tough on us who legitimately sell stuff on ebay. I've had offers from him also and I am sure he is still lurking here. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 640 Registered: 4-2002 |
hey guys email each other with your ideas, dont you think he is observing?? bruce | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 617 Registered: 7-2001 |
Better yet, tell him you don't trust paypal, and offer to FedEx him a cashiers check. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 616 Registered: 7-2001 |
Tell him to email you directly, then you get his IP address. | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Junior Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2002 |
Tell him that you will buy it but need his address first. Once you get an address please post it here. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 354 Registered: 11-2001 |
ask him if he'll ship it COD. doody. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 2571 Registered: 5-2001 |
Thanks guys look at the offer I just got: To member: investprop From member: cmpbiz -------------------- I can offer you a 348 Front bumper that is unused and in pristine condition for $800 and split the shipping costs with you. It is factory made and not an aftermarket product. Please let me know if you are interested. Thanks Chris -------------------- This email was sent by an eBay member via eBay's email forwarding system. If you reply to the email, your response will go directly to the member and not through eBay. eBay does not tolerate spam (i.e., unsolicited commercial email) and is taking steps to protect members from this abuse. In addition, solicitations to buy or sell items outside of eBay violate eBay rules and are not covered by services that protect members such as feedback, insurance, escrow, and dispute resolution. If this is an offer to buy/sell items outside of eBay, please do not participate. Enter the following link into your browser to learn more. Link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/email_info.html | ||
| Don Norton (Litig8r)
Junior Member Username: Litig8r Post Number: 94 Registered: 6-2001 |
If you have someone file a suit against him, you then get the power to issue subpoenas to ebay, aol, any ISP of his, etc. and you can get all his internet records. That may be useful in tracking him down. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2960 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good Luck if you try to get Ebay involved. They will soon let you know that they will not get involved. We tried this before on a guy who was selling a Ferrari Stallion dealer showroom display. He was bidding against himself and running the price up saying he sold it and putting it back on Ebay later on to resell it again. Ebay just would not let him sell anymore but they would not offer any help in the prosecution of this guy. Why should they get involved and have to pay their attorneys. They don't care if you got screwed just don't ask them to help in the prosecution of the jerks. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 355 Registered: 4-2001 |
tracing him isn't exactly the issue here. I think within legal boundaries that can happen and he can be prosecuted. so... shall we help fund a pool to see this guy go down? I can't stand people that rip off others and continually get away with it. where do I send my donation for "legal action against 'chris sawyerr'"? | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Junior Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 102 Registered: 2-2002 |
I saw we findout who he is and where he is and have the sh&t beat out of him. There has to be some computer geek out there that can trace him. | ||
| S. P. (512tr1994)
New member Username: 512tr1994 Post Number: 12 Registered: 6-2002 |
Found out that Chris is on Lurking on Ebay....his user id is "cmpbiz" and his e-mail address is [email protected] He is no longer selling things on Ebay (since his feedback has many negatives due to his FRAUDULENT AUCTIONS)....he is doing something better....he is solicitating BIDDERS via e-mail and claims that he has the same item they are bidding on and will sell it to them off Ebay.... How do I know??? Because I have been e-mailed many times by this dirtbag offering to sell me items that I was currently bidding on. One time he offered me New SET of 512TR Luggage, another time 360 chrome rims and wheels...and so on... He's smart because he looks for big ticket auction items and bidders with deep pockets....That is why he fell into our laps...FERRARI OWNERS = DEEP POCKETS So to contribute to Fellow Chatter's investigation of Chris Sawyerr...his Ebay USER ID is "cmpbiz" and the e-mail address that he uses is [email protected].... Hope this info is helpful in bring Chris to justice... Take Care and always be wary of any solicitations on the internet.... | ||
| Warren L. (Warren)
New member Username: Warren Post Number: 35 Registered: 2-2002 |
Let�s give a hand to Mr. Sawyerr everyone. He deserves a thread of his own. Let�s not take this time to chastise other members for sending money to double RR Sawyerr (by the way that last name is too unique if you are going to be pulling scams -I think it draws too much suspicion). Instead, lets all console each other. This won't be the only opportunity where we are humbled by those who are ready to take advantage of our naive drive to possess material wealth. Greed makes us blind at times, and its f---ing hilarious. So much more could have been lost.. imagine if this guy sent a bunch of us emails that said he was going to sell his car for 80,000 and that the first person to send him a deposit of 5000 would get the car. Chris has some major cajones. He continued to defend his stance, thereby buying him enough time to stage an exit and perhaps even convince more people to send their money. It worked out perfectly, the red cross took just enough time to get back to the inquisitors, Chris defended his stance AND he even used religion to solidify his reputation as an honest guy. That's fantastic. I like the nephew part too. However, if you are going to start a legitimate business would you have your 20 year old nephew make your website simply because he owes you a favor. So all in all, there are some loopholes. I guess Chris could have made more money if he spent more time on the website. Chris, now that your cover is blown, and you will probably get away, at least do those that bought tickets and will never see their money a favor -tell us how much you pocketed. Give us a really good ending for this story. I for one am really curious. 5000? 10000? 100000? You've been posting responses thus far, just one more post. Go out with a bang man. You probably got some really intelligent people out there, so at least you owe us one last kick ass response. In some sick way, I would love to speak to you regarding your gigs. In fact I would pay you 100 for some of your stories. Some of those email responses you must have received after those people who bought tickets couldn't get a hold of you must be really something huh? The threats, the anger, the shame... Do you do this for the money or is there a sense of accomplishment when you pull one over on someone? At the same time, aren't you afraid that someone will find out who you are? There are always ways of doing this. Do you walk with a sense that someone may be following you? Or do you sometimes wake up at night thinking someone found out where you live? I'm sure there's going to be that one person who won't stop even if you finally refund them their money. The thing is, there are people more base than you, people who are capable of doing far worse and for better causes. So is it worth being scared all the time? Or maybe you don't feel this at all. Damn, this was a long post -I blame my extremely exhausted, overworked, over partied state. Just my 55 cents. And I am serious about a response Chris. You owe us that. Bravo. You make such good reading material and that is... priceless. |