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David White (Dwhite)
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Username: Dwhite

Post Number: 55
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 1:24 pm:   

Not to be too simplistic, But I had a similar situation in my Jag once, it was bad gas. Did you fill up that day? Hope it is something very minor.
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
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Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 115
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:45 am:   

Thanks for the info Steve....oh don't mind the typo's and the spelling...contrary to what it appears...I thinki I can spell...
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr

Post Number: 977
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 9:03 am:   

George -- before replacing anything I'd suggest that you measure the voltage at the fuel pump itself while cranking -- if it never goes +12V you know there's an electrical problem (rather than a "liquid" problem). Alternatively, you could first check that the fuse terminals indeed go +12V when cranking to get a quick look further up the +12V food chain.
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
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Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 112
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 8:56 am:   

Yea, the fuse was the first thing I checked. Fuse is ok. I drove to the grocery store to get scash a check, came out, car fired up, then died, would not start, at first I thought maybe gas, so I got gas, nada....then I checked the fuse, nada...thank goodness I was only .5 mile from me X's house, so I phoned my son, and we ended pushing the 84 to the house. That's where I squirted some starting fluid...it would fire and try to run, but dies. Did that about 4 X, same result...did not want to overuse the ether routine, on my 91 Blazer, may the blazer rest in peace, wherever it is, I blew the valve covers off by useing too much ether.

Anyway, yea, it has to be either the pump, filter, heaven forbid if its the fuel ECM. I was going to replace the filter first, but can't get the nut off. No leverage, I hate to drop the tank, but I may have to.
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
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Username: Eric308gtsiqv

Post Number: 370
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 8:37 am:   

RE: Fuel Pump Fuse....reminds me of a situation several years ago when I was trying to troubleshoot a similar situation with my old Fiero. Same exact symptoms -- had ignition, etc. and would fire if I sprayed starter fluid into the throttle body, but then would die. Checked for everything (or so I thought) -- compression, spark, etc. -- all looked good.

Ended up having a flat-bed bring it to the mechanic. First thing he did was pull the fuel pump fuse -- and it was blown! Must have shorted it somehow while working on the car earlier that day.

$45 for towing, plus a few extra for the mechanic just to find out it was a 10-cent fuse! Will remember that day for the rest of my life (and my wife will gladly remind me) .

George...you mentioned it fires -- does it fire on it's own without the aid of starter fluid before it dies, which would seem to indicate some fuel delivery, in which case could be a defective component in the fuel delivery system?
Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
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Username: Euro308guy

Post Number: 22
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 7:48 am:   

Have you checked your fuses, (ie FUEL PUMP FUSE)?
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member
Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 111
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 2:23 am:   

yes, but with the help of starting fluid

Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Member
Username: 91tr

Post Number: 975
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:08 pm:   

George -- Are you saying it cranks and seems to fire sucessfully, but as soon as you release the starter it dies?
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member
Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 110
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 10:35 pm:   

have a US version, injected QV. Have ignition, fires, but won't run...fuel pump, filter, anything else to look at? And what is the trick to get the line off the filter...seems as if a gorilla tightened the top fuel line nut.

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