| Author | Message | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 506 Registered: 5-2002 |
Of course. "not that theres anything wrong with it".  First thing I did was get it tested. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2002 |
For the record... I dont think a "low miles" car like a 308QV with 15K or 20K miles is going to be a real problem car. Perhaps not even with 5K if it was run often and allowed to warm up fully when it was driven. However a car with less than 1000 miles I would bet on it being a problem unless a fair bit of money is spent. | ||
| Paul (Pcelenta)
Junior Member Username: Pcelenta Post Number: 83 Registered: 7-2002 |
Bruno, when your GTB "came-out" after 10 years...how did the family take it? were they accepting? | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Junior Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 184 Registered: 5-2002 |
David Jones is telling the truth. I sat in his car the other day, and it felt just like 56000 miles. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 292 Registered: 4-2001 |
The worst example I can recall was a 308 in Florida... It was a 76 if I remember right, part of a collection a doctor owned. He passed away and his wife sold the whole collection to the Toy store. The car had just under 500 miles on it and they were making a big deal about how low the miles were.... When talking to one of their techs who just happened to be there, he told me outside, Don't even think about this car, it was parked in the doctors Ferrari shrine and never started, and that the motor required a complete rebuild with all new seals.... What a shame My 308 has a low low 56k miles on it now... | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 495 Registered: 5-2002 |
When my gtb came out after 10 years it needed all new hoses and 2 calipers were seized and 30k etc.etc.etc. I got no problem with a very low mileage garage queen.I have a pf coupe sitting for 20 years now. but you needs one to drive. Thats where the fun is. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 200 Registered: 4-2002 |
My 348 had a ten and a half year sit, currently on just over 3K miles - verified by all docs. Its had a couple of belt changes already due to time expired view, how rediculous is that! I'd hardly describe my low miler as 'impossible'. As Ive said before its a shame about the inverse snobbery/envy shown to low mile cars. Being a perfectionist , 'for me' the pros outweigh the cons by a country mile, no rock chips, no leather wear, everything tight for me to enjoy running in over the next few years. Pedal rubbers new, no marks at all on the interior, engine bay like a detailed one without having to actually do much detailing at all etc etc I could never afford a new F car so what I have is the next best thing, and looking at it that way the price I paid seems v low. As posted a few days ago , first problem noticed is RH drive shaft seal leak, it goes into my nearest F dealer (MHT at Cheltenham UK) tomorrow! I think I also need to change the 'as new' tyres | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 264 Registered: 4-2002 |
I know a guy who has a 288GTO in storage with less than 200 miles. He purchased it as an investment and has only driven it once. Its in permanent storage. He swears up and down that it has been stored "properly" and will be ready to go anytime with minimal work. I think he is nuts. I believe this car will need not only a full 30K service but also all rubber hoses, brake lines, brake seals, wheel bearings, engine oil seals ect will be suspect. It will also likely have ring seating issues. The turbos will also be junk soon. The saddest part is that this great performance car will probably always be an ultra low mileage garage or museam queen. What a terrible thing to do to such an awesome car. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 493 Registered: 5-2002 |
Start the thread. good ideal. I know after a ten year sit the cars are impossible. Be interesting to hear whats out there. You already now my position on the odometer readings. | ||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Junior Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 77 Registered: 4-2002 |
I wonder who has the Lowest Milege 308. And what the service costs are? What problems are associated with low milege cars, in reality. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 487 Registered: 5-2002 |
Paul should have the higher speedo. My conclusion from this thread so far is that 100k should be no problem for these cars if maintained. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
New member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2002 |
About 48,000 miles on my '84 QV... concours winner and runs strong, including two or three times each year at track events. Other than rebuilding the long euro front spoiler after some accidental "off-roading", it's pretty much original, just well maintained. Did a refinish/redye of the leather to get off all the old lacquer-based dye. (http://www.fca-se.org/conc_leather.htm) I bought the car 9 years ago at 21,000 miles from the first owner, and it did have records back to day-one, with most of the maintenance being done at the Ferrari dealer where he had purchased it. www.tradetutor.com/photos/ | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 400 Registered: 12-2001 |
My 308 is a US spec car. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 482 Registered: 5-2002 |
Paul, they changed them in 1980 for DOT. Your 79 should have the higher one. Is it a Eurro car? | ||
| Joel Ames (James)
Junior Member Username: James Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2001 |
Bruno, My thoughts exactally. My car showed 32000 when I bought it. Someone was being dishonest. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 398 Registered: 12-2001 |
The ferrari service records show mine as having 90,000 kms at one point in the early 90's and later its had 6000kms. Now it shows 48,000kms. Im assuming it has rolled over. Should my 79 have a speedo that reads to 280km/h? Or has it been changed from one of the ones with the red line past a certian speed? | ||
| cory mitchell (Mitch328)
New member Username: Mitch328 Post Number: 34 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was that car in the Seattle area with 100k a Red/Tan? I did a minor service (just fluids and brakes) on one that had just turned over by 200 miles. Seats were starting to wear quite a bit but it still sounded strong when it fired off. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 476 Registered: 5-2002 |
Does anybody actually believe the odometer on a 308? Without full day 1 documentation you must be nuts. And what about all the 1980 cars on with 180 mph speedometers. What was the mileage when it was changed. Got documents? Got old speedo? Car isnt original!!! | ||
| bernie dennison (Bernied)
New member Username: Bernied Post Number: 24 Registered: 6-2001 |
My 328 has 66k miles, if previous owner had not driven with broken water pump it would not have needed rebuild. These engines should last 200k, then comprehensive rebuild should keep them going. Regular service is the key to high milage. I had a gt4 with 5ok no problems. | ||
| Jerry H (Jerry)
Junior Member Username: Jerry Post Number: 125 Registered: 3-2001 |
91,000 and STILL KICK'N! | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 129 Registered: 4-2002 |
Uh, Joel, is there something we need to tell your car's next owner? | ||
| Joel Ames (James)
Junior Member Username: James Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2001 |
My 308 only has 38000. Just look at the odometer. Yeah right. | ||
| Howie F. (Brokerofexotics)
Junior Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2001 |
I actually sold a new and crated 308 QV engine to a fantastic gent in California. It replaced his original 308 QV engine when it passed away at 130,000 miles, may it rest in peace (or pieces). Tony Palladino from Modena Motors in Redwood City, CA did the engine replacement. | ||
| Steve (Steve)
Junior Member Username: Steve Post Number: 199 Registered: 2-2001 |
Normal maint. Valves checked never needed adjustment yet. Plan to recheck at 45k. Cam seals look good with no leaks. 1 dist. seal needs to be replaced but otherwise pretty dry on top. Still have oil debris on bottom due to bad cam cover gasket at 35k but that was corrested. Looking for 100k+ miles. My wife's Volvo just turned 211k on the orig. motor. Happy motoring | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 251 Registered: 5-2001 |
When I say opened up I mean for a head rebuild or piston rings etc. Not normal maintenance stuff. | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
Junior Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 166 Registered: 5-2001 |
I know of a 328 with over 100k in the Seattle area. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 386 Registered: 12-2001 |
Are you guys saying its never been opened, like no valve adjustments or cam seals, etc... and no leaks? | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 510 Registered: 10-2001 |
45K on my '84 QV and never opened up...I'm looking forward to all of the driving to hit100K! | ||
| Steve (Steve)
Junior Member Username: Steve Post Number: 198 Registered: 2-2001 |
44K on my 77 and still unopened. Runs great. | ||
| Matthew Lemus (Mlemus)
New member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2002 |
I have a 78 with 44,000 that is now my daily driver. Never opened or overhauled. Great car if driven frequently. | ||
| Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred Post Number: 600 Registered: 2-2001 |
Looks like I have a low milage 308 with "ONLY" 56,000 on it. It is good to see some other cars with the mileage up there. | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Junior Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 244 Registered: 7-2001 |
97,000 on my '79 GTS. Engine has never been opened and it runs and looks great. | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 723 Registered: 1-2001 |
NickS if you are out there, you get to speak up I can't recall if you've opened up the engine or not. -Ben | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 377 Registered: 12-2001 |
I guess I better sell mine soon then. | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2002 |
According to a local Ferrari wrench these cars are good for 200k at least | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Member Username: Newman Post Number: 374 Registered: 12-2001 |
147000kms on my 79 GTB. previous owner broke the bank maintaining it so I could enjoy it. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Junior Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 175 Registered: 5-2002 |
Grandad's old ax sounds like some of the restored Corvettes out there. Replacement engine block, repro frame rails, new fiberglass front cap and rear fenders, but it's still the same car??? Must be, because it has the same title and license plate! At least the Ferrari guys don't seem to be as insanely fanatical about original bolt head insignias, original weatherstripping logos, and other such nonsense. The CAR itself is what's important, not the correct PATINA on the camshaft bearings! | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 247 Registered: 5-2001 |
Yea, it doesn't really count if it's been opened up a couple of times for mods, etc. Kinda like your granddad's old ax. The head has been changed twice and the handle three times but it's still the same ax. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 1996 Registered: 12-2000 |
I just broke 50k on mine this week! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 468 Registered: 5-2002 |
Ben. Same engine.No internal work?????????? | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 242 Registered: 5-2001 |
81,000 on my 84 308 | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Junior Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 241 Registered: 5-2001 |
Same factory sealed engine? | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 721 Registered: 1-2001 |
When I met FC sponsor Nick Scianna over a year ago he had 185+k on his 308. -Ben | ||
| Paul (Pcelenta)
Junior Member Username: Pcelenta Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2002 |
72k on my 78 gts...I know of someone who had ab 84 qv with 120K on it that hasn't been opened up/rebuilt | ||
| Roderick Keeler (Dr_carguy)
New member Username: Dr_carguy Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2002 |
I can't beat David's, but I've got 81,000 on my '81. Seems as solid as ever. Rod | ||
| David Prall (Davidpra)
Junior Member Username: Davidpra Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2001 |
...got 88,000 on my 81... I used to know of a 4-Valve in the Seattle area with 120,000...don't know if it's still around, though. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 467 Registered: 5-2002 |
Just to get an ideal of how solid they are. Who has the highest miles. Anyone over 100k. I got 74k on my 78. |