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Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 444
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 11:18 am: | |
I enjoy the conversion. Much less power loss with the Sanden than the York style comp. The Aspera is a power robber. It is much easier to take this assembly out than the Aspera. I have had it in and out numerous times. Another nice feature is that you can put the service ports wherever you choose. I have mine right behind the compressor on my hoses. I also am not using the idler pulley for the tension. If you purchase the correct belt you will not need the tensioner. Great conversion!!!! |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member
Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 263
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 9:28 am: | |
I can tell you that fitting the compressor so that it has a straight belt and adequate clearance front and back is a real •••••! I spent about 6 hours messing with shims and different placements before getting it all right. Much of this was getting the right belt size. The tensioner does not give lots of adjustment. Changing shims for vertical clearance would change the required belt size...
I am going to be removing the compressor, fuel tank, rear suspension as required for fuel tank removal and finally the AC lines. I guess if I am going to go this it has to be right. As to if its worth it, lets see after its done.
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Gordon Hollingsworth (Gordonh)
New member
Username: Gordonh
Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, September 02, 2002 - 9:44 pm: | |
I've been following this thread with some interest in that my '79 308 has a freon leak. It is expensive and tiresome to have to replace the freon every summer. I have been considering replacing all of the hoses since it is impossible to check them for leaks without removing them. I have also found the York compressor to be a bear to remove. So,...
Is the Sanden compressor coversion really a "good thing"? I assume that it weighs less, but with the adapters that are required is it really any easier to (1) remove the compressor, and (2) charge the system? |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member
Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 443
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 4:20 pm: | |
The hoses need to be changed. I replaced mine when I did the conversion. The original hoses aren't long enough. I had to remove my compressor numerous times for many different reasons. Once you do it a few times it isn't too bad. The gas tank will need to be removed to get the hoses out. Also tie some rope around the old hoses when you pull them through. Many put the new hoses through first before putting the fittings on. Hope this helps. |
Paul Sloan (Sloan83qv)
Member
Username: Sloan83qv
Post Number: 378
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 3:36 pm: | |
Terry,
Everyone that has done the conversion has replaced the lines and switched to R-134, in all my posts I have stated that line replacement is required for this conversion. The factory condenser will work fine but change the dryer and put a new expansion valve in for best results.
Paul |
Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Junior Member
Username: Tspringer
Post Number: 249
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 3:20 pm: | |
This project is turning into a nightmare! By the time its done, it will be late fall and I wont need a/c until next year!
I have the Sanden compressor mounted and a new dryer and expansion valve in the box ready to go. The compressor is for r134 freon. I am told that to run R12 I would have to change the oil in it. That means removing it again.... and thats a nightmare. I would also prefer to try R134 because its so much cheaper if the system does leak a little bit it wont bankrupt me.
My problem now is that the original lines will not bolt up to the compressor or apparently the dryer. Different threads and size... What is the best way to solve this?
Is it best to have some small adaptor hoses made that will screw into the factory lines and then into the new compressor? The space is tight and it appears that unless these adaptor hoses were made of something with some flexibility they will kink. IS there any place to buy off the shelf adaptors?
Do I have to remove the factory lines and have completely new lines made from scratch? I would like to avoid this if at all possible as it would mean the car is laid up for many weeks. My time is limited to work on it right now.
The guys who sold me the compressor and other parts seem to think the only way is to replace all of the a/c related lines throughout the entire car. They also think the factory condensor is not going to work well with R134.
Why is it that conversion to modern A/C on other cars is no big deal but doing it to a Ferrari is like mounting a Saturn 5 moon shot effort?
Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Im beginning to wonder if A/C is really even possible on this damn car. |