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Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 9:42 pm: | |
Congrats Caribe, you've finally made your decision to buy the car. The weight is lifted and the happiness of Ferrari dreams will be with you tonight and many nights to come. Enjoy, MAGOO |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 8:32 pm: | |
The car passed emissions!!! My mechanic lean out the injectors mix and the car passed well below the legal limits for California. Hydrocarbons reading was less than 33% of limit, and CO was less than 1%. Hence, tommorrow the owner and myself will be exchanging money, title, and keys. My mechanic seems to be very confident about the car and its overall condition. I shall be driving the car home by noon tommorrow (so help me God!) if everything goes as planned.
I'll keep you guys posted.
Thanks once more,
Caribe. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 8:27 pm: | |
James,
I don't need test pipes as the design of my system is meant for no cats I did the swap with the stock system myself (and amazingly) without having to use a lift of any kind. OK, it wasn't entirely myself I had helpers. Took us a bit longer than we has anticipated. I think it's about the same at idle but at 5k RPM no one can mistake me. I have a buddy with an 86 TR nearby he has some test pipes on his (not from Nick, stock muffler tho) his is a little louder than stock not by much. Mine is very distingushable when I want to be noticed, or silent if I don't.
here is what mine looks like:
http://www.quirt.com/benman/image72.htm
http://www.quirt.com/benman/image27.htm
those aren't the best shots of it but it gives you some idea
-Ben |
James Pai (Jaymus)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 8:11 pm: | |
Sure thing.
Hey, Ben did you put in the track pipes yourself? I think it's pretty easy bolt on operation.
I would love to put them in, as my mechanic (Mark)at Veloce is so busy.
Larry (348) guy on the board, has offered to help me out, but he is away this weekend.
If you have any tips/experience installing the track pipes, let me know. I just want to know where all the screws are and how to remove all the panels etc to get to the Cats.
James
Is your car loud? Love to hear it sometime. We should all hook up and go cruising. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 6:45 pm: | |
James,
You are a local guy, I have a HPC/Borla 4 muffler NO cat system on my TR we should compare notes one day.
-Ben |
James Pai (Jaymus)
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 2:17 pm: | |
(Repost - Don't know if my original post was sent)
I had my pre-cats bored out, if your main cats still work, the car should pass emissions.
The car runs cooler and sounds better without the pre-cats. My pre-cats were clogged and producing a lot of backpressure, so my mechanic just recommend to have it all bored out.
I just got my track pipes from Nick, they are very high quality pieces and exactly as he described them.
Haven't put them in yet, but I hope it will sound good!!! Also, have Tubi, should be loud and sweet!
James |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 8:47 pm: | |
This might give you some information about why they fail...
http://www.car-sound.com/page2.htm |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 5:19 pm: | |
Steve, I haven't talk to the shop personally. The seller did since he is footing the bill on this, but I believe the shop is Blackhorse in Los Angeles. I do not have their number, but I have seen their Ads in Forza magazine.
Thanks guys for the links, it sure seems interesting how inexpensive some of this systems seem as compared to the Ferrari ones. I wander where the price difference lies. For the moment, I would only like to figure out what caused the pre-cats to fail. I know my mechanic mentioned that the car was running a little rich, but he seemed not been concern about it. I will give him a call again to discuss this issue.
William, I only need this cat issue solve to meet emissions and been able to register the car. The car also comes with a Borla exhaust system which sounds and feels a lot better than the stock, as you suggested.
Thanks,
Caribe. |
William H (Countachxx)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 4:31 pm: | |
Maybe some1 put in nonleaded gas ? Tear them out car runs better & sounds better without the stupid things anyways |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 2:44 pm: | |
Caribe -- No idea who that AZ company is, but I've done some recent pricing for these parts, and that rebuild price seems very fair IMHO (if, of course, "they would look and operate as new"). Even from the discount F part suppliers, new precats and cats are about $1400~1500 each so a new set is $5K-$6K total, and a complete used system seems to command ~$2,500 (so ~$600 each if you ignore the muffler). I've got an extra sets of precats that I wouldn't mind getting rebuilt too -- if a bigger deal can reduce your costs let me know and I'd be glad to participate with you (if not, please post the name/number of the shop you�re working with/thru anyway). Two other possible resources for you (although I�ve not used either yet):
http://www.northlink.com/~effects/catindex.htm (click on Ferrari)
http://www.randomtechnology.com (they don�t show Ferrari specifically, but I think I got this via a recommendation on the FerrariList � and I like what I see on their site) |
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 2:43 pm: | |
CARIBE, I hope you are discounting all of these potential and existing problems off the price of the car. 12600 miles Hmmmmmm. This guy ought to be aware that you are a little gun shy about all this. I would use that as leverage since the car does have problems. But 12600 miles I would wonder. What do you guys think? I'd like to, see him get the car but not the "shaft." MAGOO |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 2:19 pm: | |
Can you have some made from these?
http://www.discountconverter.com/universals/index.htm
or here?
http://www.car-sound.com/3parts.htm |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 1:30 pm: | |
Well, it turns out that the TR I am in the process of purchasing has the pre-catalytics shut.
The owner talked to a high end Ferrari service shop in L.A. about getting them rebuild and they told him that a place in Arizona could rebuild the two pre-cats and the both cats completely for $1400 and they would look and operate as new. They will not release the companies information since they want to get in the deal.
Does anybody have any idea which company this
might be?
The owner removed the pre-cats stuff and the car is up for emission testing today since this shop, and others, mentioned that if the cats are good, it should pass emissions without pre-cats (does not seem right, but will see the outcome of the test).
Why will the pre-cats be shut on a 12,600 mi car? Is this something to worry about? Everything else checked out fine from the pre-purchase inspection and my mechanic does not seem concern.
Thanks,
Caribe. |
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