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Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 750 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 11:02 am: | |
I have to agree that I'd like to see a "Parts Cross Reference" section. And an O/T section might let those of just looking for Ferrari knowledge skip lots of heated arguments. |
Allen Cook (Alcook62)
New member Username: Alcook62
Post Number: 44 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 10:44 am: | |
Leave it the way it is. I read most everything anyways and jumping from folder to folder would be just to time consuming. I can usually tell if a topic is interesting to me by the sublect line. |
Eamon A Blaney (Eamon)
New member Username: Eamon
Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 5:03 am: | |
I agree with Peter (Mondial owners stick together!). One thing that ALL ferrari models have in common is that they constantly require (overpriced !)parts. I have found that a huge amount of these parts were fitted to cars produced by the FIAT group (Lancia, Alfa, Fiat etc.) and they can be purchased for a lot less money than what is asked by Ferrari. I to would love to see PARTS CROSS REFERENCE topic along the lines of Ferrari pn#******** = Alfa pn#******** . All this would take is about ten posts in the PARTS CROSS REFERANCE sub folder of the TECH Q&A and when you identify a replacement part you would simply reply to the post (reply to ignition system post). Furthermore if Rob turned off the ability for any of us to add to the list of posts and only allow us to reply to the ten or so posts, then it would stay consise and to the point. At the end of the day when I need to find a replacement Radiator cap for the 3.2 it would be really usefull if I could goto TECH Q&A / PARTS CROSS REFERANCE / COOLING SYSTEM and find the part I need. This, in my opinion, is a service that all of us could use and it would really be a case of us sharing our collective knowledge and research in some cases built up over years of experiance. At the end of the day, isn't that the whole purpose of the board ? Eamon Ireland ps My Mondial is VERY reluctantly for sale due to a change of circumstances. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter
Post Number: 2014 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:57 pm: | |
I should add to that, that the FAQ/search page not only should be sent to the new user, but also have prominence on the top of the page (inbetween "Reasearch" and "Parts and Service"). |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter
Post Number: 2013 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:53 pm: | |
Rob L.: "...I will create a one page blurb for new users that stresses descriptive titles. I also want to create a FAQ page with links to the best tech threads on various topics." Or maybe this could be sent in an introductory email to the new user when they sign up. Or set it up, that when the new user visits here, they see this page before accessing the main site (so that the regulars may just log on as normal without seeing that introductory page). As for the format, I enjoy reading all the various postings about all of the different cars. Great way to learn (I'm slowly starting to understand the intricacies of Jetronic...). |
Henryk (Henryk)
Junior Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 248 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 8:06 pm: | |
The growth of activity wouldn't be so bad, if non-Ferrari posts where excluded. I know that this would be impossible to do, however, why not ask members NOT to respond to these posts. Eventually they will go away, and leave more room for the Ferrari enthusiast......isn't this what this site is all about, anyway? |
Peter Connolly (Mondial_32_aus)
Junior Member Username: Mondial_32_aus
Post Number: 84 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 8:04 pm: | |
Rob, Great site! I have been on lots of other Fcar POP lists and they really wear you down. This format and it's friendly & clued in regular contributors is great. Overall topic selection is ok but is greatly enahanced by the search function. Personally, one change I would make is to add an SERIOUSLY OFF TOPIC category as distinctly different to General Discussion as there are a few too many WAY OFF TOPIC personal loves/hates/observations posts in there. As administrator, I would encourage you to lift any off topic discssions to this new folder (I know your time is valuable). Definately a PARTS CROSS REFERENCE topic and a SERVICE PROCEDURES TOPIC, very useful and greatly appreciated by all! Another feature I would like to see is email notification related to a particular post whether or not you have posted to it as it is usefull to follow some threads when you have a particular interest in the outcome of it. Keep up the great work! PC - Sydney Australia http://fly.to/mondial
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Henryk (Henryk)
Junior Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 247 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 7:58 pm: | |
Get rid of ALL the posts that have NOTHING to do with Ferraris......real estate, NSX's, etc. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Junior Member Username: Henryk
Post Number: 245 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 7:34 pm: | |
I agree with the idea of three folders: V6; V8; and V12 (including flat 12). Having each model in a separate folders is too much, for now.....and many engines overlap. So, if someone was interested in the workings of a 512 engine, he would only go to one folder, instead of every folder that offers that engine. |
Daren L Adkins (Schumi)
Junior Member Username: Schumi
Post Number: 62 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 3:03 pm: | |
I like it the way it is - thanks for doing it! |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Junior Member Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 158 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 1:56 pm: | |
Rob, The search function works great now to find your specific stuff. Your site is way better then that Corvette site. (I can't make heads or tails of their sh_t.) Simple is better. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 2116 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:54 pm: | |
I think leaving it alone for now is the overall vote. I will create a one page blurb for new users that stresses descriptive titles. I also want to create a FAQ page with links to the best tech threads on various topics. Thanks for the input. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet
Post Number: 770 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:23 am: | |
Ric - Any thought on a 4th section, Electrial/Accessories? Since I see them as very different than mechaincal/drivetrain, etc, and I didn't see you mention it - if Rob did implement this plan. Rob - I think I'm in the "still ok for now", section, but I do see the concern (growing). -Ben |
Warren Dodge (Spiderman)
New member Username: Spiderman
Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:09 am: | |
"If it ain't broke"................. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1303 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:48 am: | |
I guess to further support my comments for not changing it - I think most people on the line are regulars - meaning they don't come to the tech area one day to find out about a head gasket on their 330. If they do they can either ask the question or do the search. Having the tech area divided up would not realy make it easier for them to get an answer. I think most come to the tech area to learn and help out about all things Ferrari and can sort out what they don't like by the titles. This also allows those great tech guys (Steve, Ric, Brian, Ed, Magoo, Peter etc, etc) who have knowledge in many diff areas to help out the most without having to jump around |
Richelson (Richelson)
Member Username: Richelson
Post Number: 818 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 10:33 am: | |
I would leave it alone for now. It works very well and it doesn't take very long for me to go through all of the posts. |
Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Junior Member Username: Ricrain
Post Number: 219 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:09 pm: | |
The current method isn't broke, however... I may be in a minority with my opinion, but a "topical" sectioning might be worthwhile. As I see it, all the mechanical stuff would go together. Lots of what you do on a V-8 engine or gearbox service is applicable to V-12's and vice versa. But the interior restoration tips don't really cross over to, say, fuel pump replacement. What I'd like to see is: Mechanical (engine, gearbox, suspension, etc.) Paint and Body (paint, sheetmetal, wax, polish, trim, glass, etc.) Interior (leather, carpet, textiles, headliners, etc.) IMHO
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DAVE SHEARS (Daveshears)
New member Username: Daveshears
Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:24 pm: | |
I like it the way it is. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 277 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 9:52 pm: | |
I think a V6/V8 and a V12 folder would be great. Keeps it kinda simple. |
Bill V. (Doc)
Junior Member Username: Doc
Post Number: 132 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 8:31 pm: | |
Although I essentially like the present format, I believe it would be more efficient to subcategorize by model. Too much categorization, beyond that, would make it somewhat cumbersome, in my humble opinion. I'd vote for a model break down. |
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member Username: Mw360
Post Number: 551 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 8:18 pm: | |
We could make 2 lists 1)Frank's Dino's 2)All other Ferrari's |
Gerrit Visser (Gerritv)
Junior Member Username: Gerritv
Post Number: 94 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 8:15 pm: | |
Yea, mnn, yea, what they said, me too As Magoo put it, don't mess with success. Rules are tough to enforce. Plus this way I find little gems in topics I wouldn't otherwise look at. |
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Junior Member Username: Qferrari
Post Number: 100 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 8:07 pm: | |
Leave it as is. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3136 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 4:08 pm: | |
Just the opinion of a "pain in the ass Veteran." "If it ain't broke don't fix it." |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 611 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 4:04 pm: | |
I like it how it is. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell
Post Number: 326 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 3:45 pm: | |
I like part of Caribe's suggestion: Keep the format the same, BUT enhance the titles: "using a Prefix (vehicle model, engine type, and/or subsytem) on the " Provide a pull-down menu of categories in the title prompt for a new thread. That way those who like categories could just 'search' the current topics for '308' and get what they want. Those who like to see everything could also...
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Peter Topman (Peter_topman)
New member Username: Peter_topman
Post Number: 4 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 2:51 pm: | |
I like it just the way it is. I would leave it alone.
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Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 378 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 2:41 pm: | |
Like it the way it is too. I scan through 50% of the topics anyway so I do not want to jump folders. Plus, what is that rule of thumb on ferrari reliability? If it ain't leaking, don't fix it? |
Stanley DiGuiseppi (Standig)
New member Username: Standig
Post Number: 47 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 2:10 pm: | |
look at 'ferrariclubofamerica.org' they seperate their catagories i like that way too |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 451 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 2:08 pm: | |
if people use the search function to get to "what's new since my last visit" the volume is rarely overpowering - even if it's been a few days. there just isn't the kind of volume to justify a lot of segmentation IMO. doody. |
David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave
Post Number: 336 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 2:04 pm: | |
I agree with Steve. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1048 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:30 pm: | |
Rob -- No change needed IMO. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 2102 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:25 pm: | |
I know the banners are a little pain, but the out right costs of this site would be a major pain for me to bear. Although I will always consider better scripts. I think we need a user's page with tips and FAQ's. I notice that many users don't know how to use the search functionality, or the "messages since last login", or basic things like good thread names. Many thread names you have no clue what's they're talking about. Like that idiot "Rob328gts" that posted this "FerrariChat.com Very Important, Opinions Needed..." thread. I mean, how in the heck did you know what he was going to talk about. It should of been "FerrariChat.com reorganization of threads" or something descriptive like that. ;0 |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick
Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:22 pm: | |
Leave it....it works! |
Simon Campbell (Simonc)
New member Username: Simonc
Post Number: 36 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:04 pm: | |
I have a 'classic v12' but there is often interesting stuff that would be in the other proposed sections. It would only mean I have to open every folder to see what is in it. I think you should leave it as it is. The quickest way to speed up the site from my point of view would be to change the programming of ttop the top left ad which takes ages to load due to the java in it. There are better/quicker ways to do rotating ads IMHO. Great site though - I love it, I use it every day. Simon 1977 400 Auto in London |
Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Junior Member Username: Dapper
Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:53 am: | |
Like it the way it is. |
Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe
Post Number: 421 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:38 am: | |
Rob, I think it will be nice to categorize the messages using a Prefix (vehicle model, engine type, and/or subsytem) on the title along the lines of what you suggested, or by simply adding a category tag to the message itself. It will help to be able to browse by these categories using the search feature. Besides that, I like it the way it is, although sometimes it is hard to find your own stuff, as Kurt suggested. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 134 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:16 am: | |
I agree with you, Jselevan - I am spending much time scanning through the list. And mind you, the list is not getting smaller! Sometimes its even difficult to find answers to your own posts if you have been off line for a few days. |
James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan
Post Number: 137 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:07 am: | |
Contrarian view. I believe FerrariChat would me more efficient if organized by model (246 Dino, 308/328, Boxer, TR, etc.) Under each model a folder on General, Technical, etc. Of course, their should be a high level General discussion for things such as motorcycle movies that do not appropriately sit under a particular model. Most "bulletin boards" eventually outgrow the two topic outline. I miss some discussions for want of time to scan down the entire list. A more organized format would allow me to quickly scan those topics of interest to me. My thoughts. Jim S. |
John Bicsak (Funshipone)
Junior Member Username: Funshipone
Post Number: 116 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:06 am: | |
Leave it alone. If it's not broke don't fix it. |
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 256 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:55 am: | |
My vote is to leave well enough alone. I like it as it is. |
bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 841 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:55 am: | |
ditto............. |
mike 308 (Concorde)
New member Username: Concorde
Post Number: 20 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:45 am: | |
I like it the way it is. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1286 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:30 am: | |
plus other sites do this and we don't want to be like them  |
Greg Rodgers (Joechristmas)
Member Username: Joechristmas
Post Number: 448 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:27 am: | |
I like it the way it is now. In the tech section there are many new posts a day but not to the point where I won't see them all. Many issues interelate on many different cars. (ex. Hot start problems exist on the TR as well as the 308, Boxer; Bosch FI) I like to be able to read all of the subject lines and see every post for that day. I can then choose which ones I want to look at. It is working great. Plus it will take a lot of extra work to do this. I just don't see the time vs improvement of the site being worth it in this case. |
Drew Altemara (Drewa)
Junior Member Username: Drewa
Post Number: 54 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:24 am: | |
Good idea but I agree with the others that for now to keep it like it is. I don't think its quite to the point where it needs to be split out yet. Maybe later. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Junior Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 95 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 10:00 am: | |
I agree with Tom. Don't mess with a good thing. It would help, however, if in general discussion that the posters realize that technical questions do not go there. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1281 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 9:57 am: | |
no I like it the way it is - don't want to jump folder to folder. All you need is to make sure posters use specific titles |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 2095 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 9:51 am: | |
It has been suggested by users that we organize some of the sections and create new folders because the growth of activity makes it hard to browse just the areas you are interested in. For example, in the Technical Q&A section we can create as many sub folders as you want. Do you think that would make sense? We could divide it up something like... V6 and V8's V12's or 246's 308/328's 348's 355's 360's Classic V12's BB's TR's 550's Mondial's 456's 288/F40/F50/Enzo's Racing/Track Ferrari's or Fluid Service Paint & Body Interior Wheels/Tires/Suspension Electrical Powertrain or All of the above. What do you think? |