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Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member
Username: Iluv4res
Post Number: 146
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, September 27, 2002 - 8:34 am: | |
Once heated up, all the 'crud' shoud flow and be caught by the oil filter.
I would still rather drain from the plug, however, on my boat, it is impossible to get below the engines to drain them. The pump system works great and is a very clean procedure. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3153
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 8:54 pm: | |
I could never believe that they got as much of the crud off the bottom of the pan as opening the plug and letting the oil flow out of a warm engine. |
mike 308 (Concorde)
New member
Username: Concorde
Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 6:53 pm: | |
Check out www.liquidvac.com/ec_special.html
Neat gadget, works great. That link gives you $5 off their regular price. |
Fred (Iluv4res)
Junior Member
Username: Iluv4res
Post Number: 143
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:56 pm: | |
You should be able to tap a hole a little bit (just a hair) bigger with no problems.
The other alternative is to drain the oil through the dipstick tube with a pump. That's how I have to do it on my boat. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 198
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:02 pm: | |
Dave: Thanks a bunch. Rather than deplete your inventory, let me check with the Honda dealer across the street. If they can't figure it out, I'll get back!!! |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 161
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 8:32 pm: | |
Hans,
Just went out into the garage...
Seems I've got a new, spare one.
It is 22x1.5mm. Just re-tap to that size...
Want it?
David |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 196
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 8:28 pm: | |
Oops. Never mind the prev post. There was some sort of really weird formatting problem of this page that cut off the part about re-tapping to the larger size. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 195
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 8:27 pm: | |
Dave: What did you do to get the Honda plug to fit? Drill & tap, or??? |
David Feinberg (Fastradio2)
Junior Member
Username: Fastradio2
Post Number: 160
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 8:23 pm: | |
Hans,
Stripped the drain plug hole on my BB many years ago...Been running a Honda drain plug in her for 18 years now without a problem...just re-tapped the hole the next size larger.
FYI, the orginal hole was not heli-coiled by the factory.
Sorry, can't remember the make/model of Honda. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 193
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 7:14 pm: | |
Also, I'm having a tough time finding catalogs for Heli-Coils. However, it seems they don't go this large either. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 192
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 7:12 pm: | |
Jeff: I don't know what the thread size is, but the copper sealing washer is 22mm ID. That would imply that the threads are around 20mm. Unless the Honda kit happens to be that size, it looks like they don't have it. |
Dave (Parts_man_soda)
New member
Username: Parts_man_soda
Post Number: 12
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 7:01 pm: | |
Perhaps you should just take the pan off, take it to you local dealer. (If there's one around) And let them fix it for you. What will you wind up spending on a welding, time-serts, your time, and time in transit for the part. Dealers are 70 - 110 $ a hour. But if you like doing it yourself... Just a passing thought, Most dealers have everything they need right there.... That's my two cents.... US pennies that is... |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member
Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 44
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 6:44 pm: | |
at timesert.com hit the spark plug link and it lists various oil drain plug kits, Ferrari must be a fairly standard size |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member
Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 43
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 6:39 pm: | |
What size is the thread? |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 191
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 6:32 pm: | |
Dosen't appear that TimeSert makes one big enough for the drain plug. Any other ideas? |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member
Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 42
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 6:21 pm: | |
They are a one piece steel thread insert that are stronger than the part, they won't unravel like a heli-coil
go to timesert.com |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 190
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 6:10 pm: | |
What are Time serts? Where do I get them? What's involved with installing them? (Tools, etc.) |
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
Member
Username: Yelcab1
Post Number: 405
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 5:42 pm: | |
I do believe the hole is already helicoiled from the factory. So if it feels funny, you are ... screwed. If it gets to that point, I would remove the oil pan, take it to a welder and have him weld up the hole, redrill and retap the hole with the appropriate helicoil. Sure beats having to buy a new oil pan from someone. |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
New member
Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 41
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 5:35 pm: | |
Time serts are superior to heli-coil , they should work |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Junior Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 189
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 5:28 pm: | |
Recently changed the oil, and when tightening the plug, it felt "funny". The hex hole in the end of the plug insinuates that the plug has had many years of abuse from prior owner. It's in there for now, but next time? So.....
If it is stripped, or nearly so, is there an easy solution - other than replacing the pan? I'm not sure about heli-coil installation in this big of a hole, as I don't know where to find a suitable drill bit and tap. Are there oversized drain plugs? Other ideas? |