| Author | Message | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3278 Registered: 2-2001 |
James, I agree. That is why I jack the car up from the jack points on each side of the car and place the stands under the car at the frame on the four corners. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Junior Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 184 Registered: 6-2002 |
One word of caution on Boxers and TRs with substantial windshield rake. Raising one corner at a time will lead to significant flexing of the body with risk of cracking the windshield. Have seen this, and know that Ferrari technical people are cautious. Jim S. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2118 Registered: 12-2000 |
Normally, I don't jack from this point, but this is where I place my front jack stands.  | ||
| Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member Username: Bill308 Post Number: 395 Registered: 5-2001 |
Matt, will do. I thought it got lost on my messy table. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 293 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bill, Can you e-mail me your address again. I have the Cd for you but I lost all my e-mail Matt | ||
| Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member Username: Bill308 Post Number: 391 Registered: 5-2001 |
Hans, This frame member is convered on the GTB/S cars too. The covering plates screw into this chassis member so you have to be careful where you place your support, but it is obvious when you take a good look. | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 337 Registered: 4-2002 |
On a 'GT4, the front 'magenta' point is not real obvious. The underneath is pretty much covered. Hmmmm..... | ||
| Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member Username: Spidersense Post Number: 12 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bill, Excellent. you made it idiotproof for me. haha. I will give it a shot. Thanks again | ||
| Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member Username: Bill308 Post Number: 389 Registered: 5-2001 |
Giang, I think you may eventually damage the sway bar bushings if you support the car with jack stands at these points. The following diagram shows how I support my 308 on 3-jack stands which also compenates for any reasonable floor irregularities.  In practice, the car is driven up onto some 2 x 6's to gain an extra 1 1/2 inches of floor clearance. A 4 ft 2 x 6 is placed on the floor jack platten and the outboard ends are placed under the longtudinal frame rails to spread the lifting load. The entire rear end is lifted at onec with the jack positioned at the red 1 of the diagram. When lifted high enough, jack stands are placed under the rear frame, with small wood blocks between the jack stands and the frame, at the positions indicated by the magenta circles. The jack is released and the rear of the car is allowed to settle onto the jack stands. The jack is repositioned under the front frame at the intersection of several frame members indicated by the red 2 and the entire front is lifted. A single jack stand, with a cushioning wooden block is positioned under the front frame, at the remaing magenta circle, where it won't damage the underbody panels. I suspect your 328 is similar enough to my 308 that you will have corresponding support positions. | ||
| Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member Username: Spidersense Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2002 |
Ben, Thanks for the info. They were helpful, but do not specifically address my concerns. I have scoured through the archives but still am unsure as to how to place the jack stands up front with the undertray in place, or if the rear sway bar bushing is safe (so far so good for me, but I'd rather not find out the hard way). I'll take another look at the undertray and see if I can locate some frame areas. Thanks | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 828 Registered: 1-2001 |
Maybe these threads will help: http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/50799.html http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/18740.html http://server.ferrarichat.com/~ferrari/ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/78056.html -Ben | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 333 Registered: 4-2002 |
I'd like to see a good solution here, too. My car has a repaired spot on the undertray near the front by the frame rail where some jack or stand poked thru. | ||
| Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member Username: Spidersense Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2002 |
As far as I can see, there isn't any frame showing on the 328 up front. There is a large undertray that spans from the front spoiler to the engine area. Hence I'm afraid the "U" shaped jack stands will pinch into the undertray, especially since there aren't any factory jack points towards the front of the car. The one rear jack point pulls the whole side up, with both wheels coming off the ground. Maybe I need to look closer? | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2107 Registered: 12-2000 |
If you want to pick up an end at a time (like the whole front, or rear end), I'd rather place the jack under the frame itself (not any suspension piece) and preferable at a corner where two of the chassis tubes join. Pretty much where the tow hooks are good raising points. Otherwise, raise it by the sides, one at a time and place the stands at the recommended points. Ferrari doesn't include a front point, but I've always placed the stands at the end of the oval chassis tube, where it terminates at the wheelwell. The rear stands would be placed in the usual spots. | ||
| Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member Username: Spidersense Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2002 |
What are the correct steps in putting a 328 or 308 on 4 jack stands? Currently, I use my floor jack, and jack the car on one side (only one jack point per side) and place a jack stand where most cars would have a jack point (between front tire and door hinge). Then I do the other side. I move to the back and jack the car up on a cross member between the two rear wheels. Slide both rear jack stands in, under the rear sway bar bushing. My jack stands have the typical semicircle cutout which fits the sway bar bushing bracket perfectly, but when placing the stands up front, I'm afraid they will damage the undertray. So i've been using pieces of wood to spread the load. Concerns include: Supporting the car under the sway bar bushing may damage or deform them? (I did this after talking to a Ferrari Challenge technician). The jack stand's "U" shape may be too deep and damage the car when placed up front by the front wheels. Is there a place to jack both the front up at the same time? Thanks in advance |