| Author | Message | |||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 425 Registered: 8-2001 |
Mine is an 86 US TR. | |||
| F-J'87EuroTR (Ferrarijoe)
Member Username: Ferrarijoe Post Number: 261 Registered: 5-2001 |
I just got back in town after a couple of months out of touch. I have this diagram of relays for my car in the correct position. If this helps anybody. It is an Excel spredsheet, sorry.
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| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1153 Registered: 1-2001 |
Adam -- Glad you got it (and the AC rewiring) sorted out. Unfortunately, both the '89 and '91 US TR OMs also (I think) wrongly list the TR fuel pump relays as -113 and not -101 (although I don't know if some early version TR did use the -113s). Just for my reference -- what is the version (standard, US, other) of your '86 TR? For everyone's reference, in that late US TR fusepanel photo: the unmarked relays are the -113 type, the relays with the orange slash marks are -101 type, and the relay with the "K" is the usual odd-ball -006 relay for the external lights with the isolated dual outputs (87, 87b). | |||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 836 Registered: 1-2001 |
and I stand corrected, apologies. -Ben | |||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 424 Registered: 8-2001 |
Steve; You are correct. I went over to Bruce's today and matched up the relay's and the manual's on both cars and the service book is wrong. Put the 101's in and corrected the prob. I also followed your change for the AC and it worked great. Thanks again for the help...was sweating this one at 3am this morning. | |||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1152 Registered: 1-2001 |
Adam -- This is a tough one (as there are both real differences in the cars and errors in the documentation). The TR WSM and my later TR US OMs are a little different relay position/function-wise as are the 459/86 TR wiring diagram and later 509/88 US TR wiring diagram. Both the wiring diagrams actually show the 0-332-204-101 relay for the fuel pumps in the schematic (even though the text in 459/86 shows the 0-332-014-113 relay for the fuel pumps). I can confirm that my '91 US TR has the -101 relays for the fuel pumps and that if a -113 relay was plugged into either socket you would get the exact symptom you noted -- blow the fuse when key turned on (since the common 87 terminals of the -113 relay would connect the +12V power to ground). Here's a later US fusepanel (which matches my '91) -- but your earlier TR may have some differences  Which relay do you have now in the "bad" position and which is in the "good" position? | |||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
New member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2002 |
The relays for the left and right fuel pumps should be the same number.I belive the last 3 numbers are 113. You have different number relays for other systems in the car I think the last 3 numbers on those are 103 with a orange strip diagnoly accross the relay. Be sure you have all the correct relays in the correct spots before you go any futher. They can cause some strange things to happen | |||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 834 Registered: 1-2001 |
Adam, "Are the relay's for the left and right diffrent numbers and I mixed them up." NO. "Does anyone have a list of the proper relay's for each position as the book is sometimes off, and I may have mixed one up." The relays should be all the same, they are all interchangeable without any problem. I have a pal who replaced his (whole) fuse panel/box and has the old one still with all the relays on it, when we need one we just go cannibalize from there, not paying any attention to which was where. If you suspect the relay (and they do fail), use one from the headlights to swap, but something doesn't sound right. If you remove the relay and the fuse is still popping then it's something IN the fusebox (as pulling out the relay will disconnect downstream power out TO the pump). -Ben | |||
| Adam Goldman '86 TR (Icnsltmfg)
Member Username: Icnsltmfg Post Number: 423 Registered: 8-2001 |
I rebuilt the fuse panel to correct the A/C prob that everyone has, but when it all want back together I am now blowing the LH fuel pump fuse. I checked the panel again it looks good inside, nothing crossed or touching. Are the relay's for the left and right diffrent numbers and I mixed them up. The fuse blows as soon as I turn the power at the battery on without the key on. Does anyone have a list of the proper relay's for each position as the book is sometimes off, and I may have mixed one up. The car ran prior to the fuse box removal. |
