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Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2001 - 6:54 pm:   

Thanks Charlie.
charles claussen (Atlantaman)
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2001 - 4:01 pm:   

do not think the blades are available separate--got my new units at trutlands a few years back and they were about 160/pr but likely to be 200/pr now
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2001 - 1:13 pm:   

Charles, can you buy just the blades? If so, are they interchangeable with the orig. 308 2 valve fan motors?
charles claussen (Atlantaman)
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2001 - 10:22 am:   

cooling fans---
If you have a 2 valve 308, you likely have cooling fans in front of the radiator that have narrow and somewhat useless blades--you can replace them with 4-valve fans which come with thicker, wider blades and will pass a LOT more air.
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 1:41 pm:   

Neville, I was just at Ferrari of Atlanta, they have the 1.1 bar caps and the 0.9 bar caps. You can call them at 770-939-5464 ask for Ken. They are like $31.00 though. Doh.
Neville Pugh (Nevpugh68)
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 9:30 am:   

Where can you get 1.1 bar radiator caps from ?!?! I've looked all over for one of these .... (pref. in UK). Alternatively, will some other make (Alfa ?) rad cap fit ?
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 8:37 am:   

Hey guys, I am pulling my radiator to be recored or boiled out tonight, hopefully I can have it buttoned back up by tomorrow night. I am getting a much better feeling about it, because several of you guys have had the exact problem I am having now. I have a fresh water pump and belt, a new thermostat. I'm getting a 16 pound (1.1 bar) radiator cap and I have some water wetter. I am very anxious to hear what my radiator looks like inside.
charles claussen (Atlantaman)
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2001 - 1:45 pm:   

new solution--recore the radiator.
My 308 was always running hot so I removed the radiator and took it to a shop to be recored. The older Ferrari radiators were 3 rows or "not-so-good" fins, so I had them order (tO the perfect size) a custom 4 row hi efficiency (honda crx type) radiator core. It was installed using the ferrari tanks on top and bottom and looks just like the original.BUT WORKS A LOT BETTER.

Also I removed the oil cooler and re-located it to the front air dam area, routing hoses to the front via the frame members under the doors. No more over-heating problems.
Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 9:02 pm:   

You probably have a clogged radiator as well. Keep in mind that these cars are old and sit a lot and clogging can occur. I see it daily on cars used regularly so you know it can happen on low mileage cars.
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 8:42 pm:   

I bled the system today and got a little air out. I took it on a long drive (about 100 miles on the highway) On the highway it was fine but back in town it kept creeping back up towards the 220 mark. Not sure where to look next.
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 6:45 am:   

I will give it a try today and let you know how it goes. I haven't noticed any of the hoses sucking shut. If anything the L. upper rad hose lookes like it is expanded like it has alot of pressure through it.
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 12:55 am:   

Frederick, I would still say that you have a problem with the air in the system or a bad thermostat. Your therm. maybe not opening in time or air in the system or both. Open both heater controls on your console. Then start your car let run to normal operating temp. about 195, no more. Slowly open the radiator bleeder until all air is out,then close the valve. Then slowly open the therm. bleeder and bleed out all the air then close the valve. Have you noticed whether or not any hoses are sucking shut? This could also be because of air in the system. Especially the L.upper Rad. hose. First things first, bleed the system. Then go to the other things such as sticking therm.
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 12:01 am:   

Warren, Also the water pump in new. About a month ago. Don't know if this info helps or not just thought I would throw it in there.
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 11:57 pm:   

Warren,
The thermostat was changed a couple of months ago because the car was running hot. After it was changed I did not have any problems untill a few days ago. When you say make sure the heater control is fully open you mean the two levers on the console? To bleed it do I just open one bleeder at a time. That is assuming you think in air in the system could be the problem. By the way the car is an 83 308. The temp should be around 195 is that correct? The manual says if the temp gets to 240 to shut dowm the car.
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 10:32 pm:   

That's all the info. I have on what you have given so far.
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 10:29 pm:   

Fred, your engine should not be running 220. You said you replaced the thermostat. Did you do that recently? If so you could have air in the system. There are two bleeders assuming that your car is a 308. One at the RT. top of the radiator. And one at the thermostat housing area. Make sure your heater control is fully open so that coolant can circulate through the entire system. Then I wonder why you changed the thermostat. Was the engine overheating at that time? Was this just a maintenance proceedure? If so you may have a bad thermostat.
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 10:02 pm:   

My car has been running hot the last few days. It isn't over heating but the water temp is at the mark between 195 and 250. I would say it is running around 220. The fans are running, the coolant level is good and the thermostat is new. I was thinking maybe I had air in the system and need to bleed it. Or is 220 an ok temp. Usually it runs around 195 and this is where I am thinking it should be. The car seems to be running fine but it just makes me a little nervous at that temp. Thanks for any help
Fred

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