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magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3346
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 11:22 pm: | |
Well, I am not going to run my 308 dry but I don't think I'm going to put Stabil in it either. Just my 93 octane and start her every 30 days. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 682
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 10:52 am: | |
Just a side bar here.
I noticed on my new 20 hp tractor (kohler engine) my lawn mower (toro) and new chainsaw (stihl), (yes I need all this crap for my yard) That the recommended method of storage now is to run it dry out of gas. Hum.
I stillstart my cars evry 2 weeks at the most run 5 minutes and move tires on floor 90 degress. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3325
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2002 - 12:07 am: | |
Larry have you ever done this check on Stabil. Another question, If you put the "O" ring directly in the solution the high concentration will probably affect it anyway as compared to being in a tank of fuel. Is this a fair test? However I believe that some additives do affect rubber parts in carbs, as well as F.I.. |
Larry Fletcher (Fletch62)
New member
Username: Fletch62
Post Number: 5
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 6:02 pm: | |
A lot of the gas additives will attack the o-rings and diaphrams in the fuel injection system. These are made of nitrile aka buta-n, the same stuff that common black o-rings from a hardware store are made of. Take one of these o-rings and put it in a small jar of the additive you want to use and if it does not become mushy, swollen, cracked, or damaged after a day then your additive is probably ok. Do not use B-12 or the chemicals that mix water that is in gas I know these are bad. My business is rebuilding fuel distributors and I see some that have been hurt this way.
Larry Fletcher
CIS Flow Tech, LLC |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3317
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 4:54 pm: | |
David, Thanks for the correct spelling. No Bret I wouldn't think you were crazy. The reason I asked was in the carb. models ,as you know are accellerator pumps, diaphrams. There has been some question in the past about additives affecting the diaphram after sitting a long time. I know there are teflon diaphrams but what about the ones that are rubber. Just thought I would ask to see if anybody has had a problem and not related it to additives in the fuel sitting for months. I also feel that with todays fuels it isn't neccessary. |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member
Username: Bretm
Post Number: 2824
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 2:53 pm: | |
Everyone always says they have no problems with it, Bret must be crazy. BUT, we have several hundred acres up in the mountains and consequently leave a couple 4x4s up there (my grandfather has a Bronco and my dad used to leave out old K5 Blazer). Well before we got rid of the Blazer one year my dad got the idea to try a gas stabilizer. God knows why as it was never really much trouble to get the blazer started first time in the fall (it would sit almost all the summer unused and then get used all hunting season), needless to say getting it started that year was like trying one of those old British cars, the type with inline 4s and two batteries to start it with. Just endless gyrations to get it running, finally started it up, ran the tank out to get the stabilizer out, filled it up, never had a problem again. Everyone will say I'm crazy, but that is my experience with it. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 296
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 2:29 pm: | |
I use it on my motorcycle and lawnmower, not on the Ferrari, I drive it plenty. :-)
Works fine, but then I have not used it and my motorcycle starts up after three or four months of sitting, no problem. I think fuels can stand storage better these days than in the past. Still a good idea I suppose, to use it.
Product is called Stabil, available at most hardware stores...I get it at Ace Hardware. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3313
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 2:23 pm: | |
Does anyone use the fuel additive "Stabilus" maybe wrong spelling, in their tanks when storing for the winter? |