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magoo (Magoo)
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Username: Magoo

Post Number: 3373
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 3:49 pm:   

I know that Hans, I was just suggesting not to "jack" it up "high" off the ground on one side of the front.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Post Number: 363
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 1:57 pm:   

Glad I'm not alone. My doors weird out also when the car is jacked.

Re: Raising the right front - I don't jack it, just find a place to park with a pronounced slope. This isn't too difficult around here, as there is no level ground in southern Oregon.
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Post Number: 2147
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 1:22 pm:   

My car feels solid on the road and there are no squeaks or rattles.

If I place it on four jack stands (two at the rear points and two just behind the front wheelwells), I can't open the doors...
magoo (Magoo)
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Post Number: 3364
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 9:44 am:   

Tommy, there was a recent post on here about that. I have seen a couple 308 GTS cars that had small cracks in the lower rt.hand corner of the windshield. So I agree with that post where ever it is at this point. Years ago I worked in a repair shop while going to college. I was putting a chevy impala up on a four arm lift. The windshield cracked all the way across the windshield. So yes there is some flex in any car when suspended. Also if the molding clips are too close to the glass they will nip the edge of the glass and can cause it to crack when the body is flexed.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 400
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 9:29 am:   

That really happened?
Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Post Number: 2195
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Sunday, November 03, 2002 - 6:08 am:   

I would be afraid to ride in a car that would flex enough to break a windshield if lifted from any corner. If my car broke a windshield from jacking it up, I would sell it and find a safer car.
magoo (Magoo)
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Post Number: 3353
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 11:03 pm:   

Not to be a alarmist but remember the recent post we had about jacking up the one side only on the front and the result being a cracked windshield. Too much flex. JMO
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 399
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 10:13 am:   

GREAT IDEA, Hans. Raise the front right side. I bet if you jack that side only up a good bit it will really help. I can't believe this never occured to me.
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Post Number: 2138
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Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 1:12 am:   

Mitchell, tap the gauge, I do this all the time on my car (oil press. and oil temp are sticky. Amazingly, the one tap is all that does it, even after shutting down the car and coming back a few hours later, it registers immediately). Only if I leave it more than a day will it stick. One of those Ferrari-isms...
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Post Number: 358
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 02, 2002 - 12:02 am:   

I park the car with the right nose elevated considerably. Run the motor a bit so hopefully all the bubbles will migrate to the right side of the radiator.

But agree with the others - the gauge acts too weird to be a coolant problem. Gauge, loose wire connector, ground, whatever. Probably electrical, or the gauge itself.
magoo (Magoo)
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Username: Magoo

Post Number: 3349
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 11:58 pm:   

Yes I agree Tommy, bleeding it hot is not fun with the hot coolant you are messing with. Once the engine has cooled down somewhat the air is still there trapped at the highest points. Bleed and top off if needed. The reason I like to bleed it under pressure warm,not hot, is that the air is forced out better under pressure and then open the cap and top off. JMO
magoo (Magoo)
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Post Number: 3348
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 11:49 pm:   

Very Good Point Tommy. I missed that one and it is very important. Air could be trapped in the heater cores. However I still think you have a defective guage.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 395
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 11:42 pm:   

remember to open your heater valves all the way too.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Post Number: 394
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 11:41 pm:   

I've been told to do it cold. I just open the front one and let it piss out while I chase it with more fluid from the back. Hot fluid always seems to have air in it. When you release the pressure on it it wants to bubble out.
magoo (Magoo)
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Username: Magoo

Post Number: 3343
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 9:34 pm:   

Mitchell, I would run the engine to normal operating temps shut it down, let it cool for about 30mins. and open up the radiator bleeder then the thermostat bleeder. However the problem you described wouldn't cause the guage to shoot up that way because coolant is still circulating regardless of the air and it isn't running hot. I go with Bob the guauge is probably sticking.
Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
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Post Number: 367
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 9:07 pm:   

My vote would be for a sticking gauge, try tapping it after startup
Mitchell Le (Yelcab1)
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Post Number: 445
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, November 01, 2002 - 8:58 pm:   

Just the last 2 drives, I noticed that my water temp gauge stays stuck to the lowest setting, and then after 2-3 miles of driving, it jumps immediately to 1/5 of the scale.

It seems like there is a block of air inside the coolant system. I tried bleeding it but I must be doing something wrong, because no air is coming out.

So, what is the proper way to bleed a ferrari coolant? Cold, or hot, or ...

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