| Author | Message | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 434 Registered: 8-2002 |
Just keeping the thread alive, this is amazing. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 200 Registered: 11-2000 |
Purchased a used euro fuel distributor, lines, pump, reaction rod, air bypass valve, intake gaskets, cold start valve, oil temp and pressure senders, water temp sender. All this from Independent Ferrari Service of Costa Mesa - Michael Rozenstraten. This guy seems to know his stuff and will be parting a Mondial soon. Phone 949-548-9541 Thanks again Erik If anyone could help with the camgears, warm up regulator and aux. air valve the engine would be running this December. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 451 Registered: 4-2001 |
Not sure about the restoration project, but it can be a piece of non-functioning artwork for a business or your garage wall. Imagine having a painted frame only F-car on the side of the wall in the garage? =D | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2001 |
Hey Erik,Shoot the top of them valve cover n cam covers with CRC BRAKLEEN or any PRO-GRADE brake cleaner it turns to a cool looking chrome without the scrubbing n buffing... | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 193 Registered: 11-2000 |
They still have the GM HEI ends filling the holes. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3518 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, Please tell me the spark plugs are in the holes. It doesn't look that way in the pic. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 192 Registered: 11-2000 |
Here is a pic of how the Soda blasting is going on the engine...  | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 191 Registered: 11-2000 |
Horsefly, now that is an idea I can get along with! I have an Ingersol Rand screw compresor and got 2 bags of Baking Soda to blast the engine with tomorrow. I will post pics soon  IronJoe- great ideas, thank you | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 390 Registered: 5-2002 |
If Erik is determined to restore the crispy critter, why not get in touch with one of those cable TV auto shows and have them do a whole series of shows around the restoration. Now that would be worth watching. Have the sponsors help pay for it all by providing free parts for the free advertising. It would then be a well known car which could be plastered with sponsorship logos and taken to all the car shows and race tracks. Turn it into a money maker. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 422 Registered: 5-2001 |
He must really want to keep it. That's not the kind of thing you do to sell it. I would like to see him go for it just to see how things turn out. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3498 Registered: 2-2001 |
Guys, I think Erik has read these comments and will make up his own mind. Obviously he is no virgin when it comes to working on cars. He knows just how much trouble it will be and nothing we say will change his mind. I think all has been said. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 385 Registered: 5-2002 |
Steel starts to lose its strength and bend at 1700 degrees. But since the aluminum engine parts are still intact, the temperature probably wasn't that high. But Erik, get realistic. Crunch the numbers and do the math. By the time you add up all the numbers, you could go buy a nice car and drive away. What is your time worth per hour? Add up the cost of all the parts, plus the shipping costs to get them to your location, plus whatever your time is worth per hour, plus electricity costs to light and/or heat your garage during the restoration, plus the wear and tear on your mind and body (skinned knuckles, sore back, etc.) And after it's all restored, how much do you have in it versus what it is REALLY worth? MOST IMPORTANTLY, how could you ever sell that car to anybody who knew that it had been through 2 major fires? NOBODY who had seen the photographs would ever buy that car. I think you're digging a giant money pit and you won't be able to afford a long enough ladder to climb out of it. | ||
| George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member Username: Oof_n_goof Post Number: 121 Registered: 7-2002 |
250 hours Joe? Um....maybe 250 hours just to work on the panels to eliminate the warpage, it will be at least a year long project.. I wish Erik the best of luck | ||
| George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member Username: Oof_n_goof Post Number: 120 Registered: 7-2002 |
Funny that Joe should mention Ford parts will fit..case in point is the oil filter....50 bucks from ferrari when Wix and Casite have filters for 4 bucks...Ford applications, perfect match. | ||
| George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member Username: Oof_n_goof Post Number: 119 Registered: 7-2002 |
A source for used parts would be Evans Automotive in Columbus, Ohio. He has a bunch of 308's sitting there that I thought were beyond help, but no disrespect to Eric...after seeing his, Evens' stuff is concourse material. George Evans has posted in the General Discussion area. I will try to get his number....his parts are reasonable. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3496 Registered: 2-2001 |
Joe, The optimism here seems beyond the point of making good sense. But the bottom line is this. Erik has the right to do what he wants with the car and if he sees a light at the end of the tunnel, "Go for It." The comments made were not to be debasing to Erik they were only shock and disbelief that some one would attempt such a task. I think it will be interesting over time as Erik posts his restoration progress on the 308. | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 110 Registered: 12-2001 |
Erik I also forgot the front bearings match locally here ,they were $ 8.00 it will look all Ferrari outside ,but not to worry the 308 started out as a mutt on the line when I got mine it came off the flat bed I looked at the underneath n engineering aspect I litteraly started laughing (please,with all due respect to purists,the ol Military saying.If you cant provide Improvise) Erik I say you can do it in 250 hours or less...... | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 109 Registered: 12-2001 |
Gents,As Erik stated maybee light weight track car.Very easy to do.Street car with alot of aftermarket parts non Ferrari still easy.all Ferrari parts still do-able but maybe cost prohibitave for a man in his current status.Erik I know I dont have to tell you what to do.But get the biggest media BLASTER,light sand ,soda, n light bead n go to town, make a rotisserie for 100.00 make it spotless reglass,weld n heli, where applicable then 3 gallons of truck bed liner,flip over,make interior spotless then 2 gallons of truck bed liner (makes base for very quiet ride,koni rebuilds shocks cheap,new polyurathane bushings $319.00 Ramchargers Taylor,mi,new brakelines 40.00 new stainless flexlines $60.00 Vertex,Miami off Porsche 911 (lower tighenting helper tabs on rear frame 2 inches for more play) Bearing match at any Fag dealer or skf in your area Porsche 914 almost positive it works.rear caliper full rebuilds $120.00 each includes parking brake,fronts $40.00 each S n G 313 383-2500,E Z wiring wire complete harness marked evry wire with fuse box terminated n hooked up $320.00. blinker n hazard stalk will work off any 70 to 79 GM preferably 78 Caddi coupe deville just make an adaptor out of high density plastic 1/2 inch thick mount to housing (2 screws then mount stalk) (use toggle over-ride on relays to activate headlight openers rework complete cooling system from new throw away old garbage. Use alluminum radiator$325.00 ) to Cool Radiator, CSI electric water pump.gates 1 1/4 return line, 1 inch input, a/c ,heater underdash combo with all switches $315.00,2950 cfm fans $80.00 each (pullers) throw away alt n a/c pump make new mounts for GM 100 amp alt $100.00 new ,Sankyo sd 508 a/c compressor,if your tanks are wasted toss em n Speedway Motors catalog sells a real good aircraft capped,poly tank fits good HARNESS will match GM sender ,just weld a mount n relocate a battery tray to rear wheelwell off frame holley red fuel pump mount in front of steering rack $80.00 complete rebuild of steering rack part 314259 Federal Mogul is lip seal off Ford Pinto $5.00,plastic end seal Norwoods Texas $40.00 bellows from Nissan 280 z 95890605 $22.00 Dashboard recover monroe $135.00 door covers n rests 150.00 theres many many more money saving tricks n the coolest thing ,is all 1/4 the price of Dealer 308 stuff if not less...... | ||
| George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member Username: Oof_n_goof Post Number: 118 Registered: 7-2002 |
[img]http://groups.msn.com/AVetteandaFerrari/daaitalianstallion.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=55[/img] U can have this for 28,500...everything you need to restore yours, why, you can even drive it home. Say it ain't so Joe, that you're going to attempt to resurrect the Phoenix | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3494 Registered: 2-2001 |
Joe, Just a friendly comment on your post. Peter and Ed as well as myself are not saying the fire did not happen. We are merely saying that to resurrect something like this from the dead is beyond the norm. Now Erik has the desire to do this and we do not criticize him for doing so except it is like trying to make chicken salad out of chicken sh-t. As I said before "a man has to do what a man has to do." So good luck and all those good things. We wish him the best. It will be nice to see his progress posted as time passes here on the F.C.. Regards, | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 107 Registered: 12-2001 |
308 GT4 Peter I totally respect your opinions and as for alot of your other posts. I know you are a major Gearhaad, as well as Ed Gault, anonther, man with a maniacal Mondial. Ed Salla and many more, most of the time I just read n listen but I couldnt help voicing.When I look at the pictures its not the burnt F-car I look at continually its the background that will tell you about the person your dealing with I dont think this guy would go to this length to rent a burnt garage to provide pics.see-ing his tools whats left of shop n previous posts gives merrit.I would expect the F-CHAT members would have given a little more time before they brought out the chris sawyer lynch mob n noose now that punk was well deserving of an old Detroit style ass-kicking. I think Erik is genuine and a fellow f-chatter in need, and im willing to annie -up.... | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 189 Registered: 11-2000 |
Spent about 3 hours and had the engine out. There is no visible metal damage to the aluminum. I will soda blast it in the next few days.   Look on the last page of the link at the bottom for more pics. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2167 Registered: 12-2000 |
Joe, a twice-burnt Ferrari is not minor bullshit, this is a very serious proposition. One that makes little sense, but the Ferrari passion does cloud ones judgement's. I wish him luck, but I wouldn't touch this project with a ten-foot pole. Peter (With very dirty fingernails...) | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2222 Registered: 2-2001 |
Anything can be repaired, but that dosen't mean it should or makes common sense to try. As much as I love one of my personal cars, if the same happened to it, then a proper burial would be in order. | ||
| joe saldana (Ironjoe)
Junior Member Username: Ironjoe Post Number: 106 Registered: 12-2001 |
ERIK ,DO IT.I feel sorry for you to lose such a great shop ,tools I hope you didnt lose them harleys n the jeep n I really hope that wasnt a 911 under that cover ,you had some serious time saving tools that some people on this line dont understand, then to top it off they RIPP-ON you for minor BULLSHI-- (they probably have really clean finger nails n way boring lives) But anyways I am the KING of bringing them back from the dead.I have to tell you Ive seen worse I have alot of these smaller parts e-mail me at [email protected] | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 188 Registered: 11-2000 |
I will post a current shop pic tomorrow, it is going together well. A little more wiring and lighting then the final inspection. Previous was a 40*60*12, this time it is a 40*64*16. Moved the pit to the back of the shop, made the old pit into a safe. Still have sheetrock and insulation to do. Salvaged a batch of tools, Craftsman was good about warranty on some burnt tools, Snap-On, Mac, and Matco not nearly as easy to work with. I am in the market for a 2 post lift and bought a few this summer but didn't care too much for the build quality of Team Lift so I sold them. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3464 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, Each time I look at those pics the thought goes through my mind of raising someone from the dead. Impossible. What about your building is it back together. What about your tools equipment,jacks etc.? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 425 Registered: 8-2002 |
I got an e-mail from him this morning. He said the frame was fine and still had the balck paint on it. | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
Junior Member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 58 Registered: 8-2002 |
Eric, more power to you since you're gonna do it despite of what the other guys are saying... then go all the way... re-body to a 288 GTO. gutsy move man, but IMO its gone the structural integrity of the frame that's twice baked isn't good - move to the next project. | ||
| Frank Foster (Sparta49)
Junior Member Username: Sparta49 Post Number: 122 Registered: 3-2001 |
I'll sell you my 308 GTS for 40K and take yours for use as a BAR B QUE Pit | ||
| Sal Ant (Ny308gtb)
New member Username: Ny308gtb Post Number: 16 Registered: 8-2002 |
I'll turn that thing into a flower pot for my front lawn. If you consider the man hours alone you will put into the car, ill sell you my 308gtb for 50K and you will be way ahead of the game. And you can give me yours to make a flower pot... | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2001 |
Let it go. There will aways be another 308 project car for you. If it was mine, i would make a badass BBQ broiler out of it. Sorry, but it suits the 308's final demise. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1644 Registered: 9-2001 |
nice job matt | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1485 Registered: 9-2001 |
The car dead. Let it go. The only money I would spend on that thing would be for a tow truck to haul it off. Unless you could salvage some body panels or frame pieces for resale. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 408 Registered: 8-2002 |
Erik, In a gesture of good faith, I have some windshield moulding you can have. E-mail me and we can set-up shipping. M | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3439 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, All kidding aside I wish you the best on this project. I know it was a disappointment to you when you lost it. Most of the guys comments, including mine, were to try and be helpful to get you to make the right decision. It is obvious that you intend to go through with it so go on with it and I wish you the best. " A MAN HAS TO DO WHAT A MAN HAS TO DO." Good Luck, Magoo | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 185 Registered: 11-2000 |
No worries Just hope a few folks who read this may have what I seek! | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2002 |
Erik, If that is the case, please accept my apology. M | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 183 Registered: 11-2000 |
The 4 pics below are the completed restoration pics of my Euro after its first fire. Note on my website as you run your pointer over the pics there is a description. Mark's car is not my car. I did countless hours of work on Mark's car and took photos. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 182 Registered: 11-2000 |
I sent the picture to wrecked exotics, that is my car. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2647 Registered: 12-2000 |
Erik, what are all the projects you have going on? I know the GT4, but you have two 308's? Or are these latest pictures of the 308 before the fire? | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 180 Registered: 11-2000 |
Tom-premium was not paid and car was not on the policy. I was not too concerned with insurance and didn't pay attention to the policy which includes my other cars. The car was being stored in the shop and not driven and I thought the shop insurance would cover a project car. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 179 Registered: 11-2000 |
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| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1638 Registered: 9-2001 |
Erik did you pay the premium? I would fight this. What does the missing vin matter. The car was on the policy - not sure how it ever got on there without a vin - that is the first thing they ask for. maybe the euro vin threw them. I would appeal this asap | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 178 Registered: 11-2000 |
Well as I was jetsetting to Boise yesterday with a friend I didn't get on the net. Good detective work on the decklid, I bought a good white one from Peter at Forzamot. It is unburned as it was in my sheetrocked fireproof room and is still pristine. Matt- back off and take a chill pill. The thumbnail photo is not my car- note airvent color and license plate- I'd guess to say that is Marky's car which just sold on Ebay for ~22500. Yeah I have a couple extra UFI filters in my 2 car garage. I will post a pic of the completely restored 82 308 GTSi euro... all of which are pictured above...no scam going on here. I started this thread after discussing it with Rob and thought that a few people who race their 308's would have spare parts taking up space. The insurance company covered my car when I transported it from Denver but says it never recieved my vin and didn't bind coverage after the 30 days. djmonk, good eye on the wheels. The rear sags so low it drags on the ground. One of the rear wheels is salvageable but the other is melted and gone. They are TSW rims and not listed as a current model on their website...I'd like to find a single 17" to match them. Enough of cutting on me, how about the original post? | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328 Post Number: 153 Registered: 3-2001 |
Give the man a break - only few hours since the first accusations. Some people have a life off the internet. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 370 Registered: 5-2002 |
The silence from Erik concerning this controversy is deafening. What say Erik? | ||
| djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member Username: Davem Post Number: 113 Registered: 1-2002 |
My guess is the odd wheels were put on after the fire to roll the car around? | ||
| Frank Foster (Sparta49)
Junior Member Username: Sparta49 Post Number: 113 Registered: 3-2001 |
The declid that is on in burned pics is off a Euro car. Also if the car was restored why are all the wheels different??? | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2847 Registered: 2-2001 |
Why don't you just buy a 355 with the money that is going to be spent to put together the 308, then you'll have residual value of more than a quarter of what will be spent. Not trying to bust balls too much, but kind of ridiculous to put the 308 back together. All the more to you if you prove us wrong, but it's not like this stuff goes together inexpensively. Sure, if you need a couple parts you might be able to find some good deals, but an entire car? There was an entire car on ebay that was a basketcase a month ago, but I don't know how often those come along, they still wanted like $10G for it anyways. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 367 Registered: 8-2002 |
Tom That does not account for the pictures taken from websites and the incosistant timeline of photos. From Blackedout vents proir to first restore, to painted after the restore to black after second burn. | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 416 Registered: 4-2001 |
I have a buddy here in town who's 77GTB turned to toast, his was the silver 308 from Arkansas that was posted on that wreckedexotics.com site... At any rate the insurance company paid in full. Why was your car not covered Erik? | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1629 Registered: 9-2001 |
matt in previous threads he mentioned he had two diff deck lids | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 366 Registered: 8-2002 |
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| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 365 Registered: 8-2002 |
Something does not smell right with this. How can you not have insurance to cover this? IF it was in his shop, Where is the insurance for that? The story, the pictures and lack of insurance does not add up. Erik, Why did not ask for a flippin oil filter since you had the gaul to ask for a air filter. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 1628 Registered: 9-2001 |
what's up with the steel rims? also how come insurance does not cover this | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 364 Registered: 8-2002 |
The engine cover is different from the restoration pics. I am confident to say that the car you "restored" was never restored at all. Or if it was, you are trying to get free parts from us. You are passing off pictures of car in restoration that is not yours. And A picture of a burned ferrari from antoher website. I believe you own the "burned again" ferrari but you are asking us to flip the bill for you. Maybe you should sell lottery tickets. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 358 Registered: 8-2002 |
Your pic's    | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 357 Registered: 8-2002 |
Erik, Is that the same car? The photo of the car that is with the burning building has different burn marks on the rear and has the engine cover. Also the color is different. That picture is also posted on the net @ http://www.wreckedexotics.com/308/308_061702_02.shtml Also your restoration pics show the vents behind the headlights as painted red yet the "post restoration pics" they are still black like how your pictures showed it BEFORE the restoration. What gives? I think before you ask people to send you Thousands of dollars worth of parts that these questions should be addressed. M | ||
| David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave Post Number: 411 Registered: 4-2001 |
I would have reservations riding in a car that had it's temper changed by 2 fires, it's not safe... Let it go Erik. | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 56 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hi Erik, Just get another 308 and use the "usable" parts from the existing one as spares for the future. All the best | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3404 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik. I know you don't need any more sh*t but let me say that "twice baked is over done." I guess what I and some of the other guys are trying to say is don't get into a project because of emotional feelings and end up on the short end of the stick. I feel you know this but you like the car for what it has meant to you. Think again. You can't raise the dead. Regards | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3394 Registered: 2-2001 |
HorseFly, If you are interested in doing your 57 vette, Chicago Corvette should have everything you need for that car. Also Ecklers Corvette in Fl. has a pretty good parts warehouse but Chicago Corvette is best. 17yrs??? | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 367 Registered: 5-2002 |
Wow, this board sure has opinions that are light years apart. One guy's 308 on E-Bay has a few burned hoses and a scorched patch of paint and everybody says "Part it out". Now Erik contemplates restoring a totaled Phoenix from the ashes. I admire you tenacity Erik, but I think you would have a better chance of driving a 308 again if you just asked somebody to GIVE you another car. Tracking down all those parts AND doing all the work would take several lifetimes. I know, because I have been gathering parts for my 1957 fuel injected Corvette for 17 years now. And I haven't even turned a wrench yet! | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 176 Registered: 11-2000 |
From what I recall they started Zinc coating with the QV. I will be pulling the motor and resealing it. If I were to part the car out I doubt I could recoupe much of my investment. I wouldn't mind finding a donor car for the project, if anyone happens across one- please let me know. | ||
| Ben Millermon (Brainsboy)
Junior Member Username: Brainsboy Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2001 |
Why dont you buy a crashed ferrari with front end damage. you have the parts already to fix one. Im sure you can pick one up cheap. I just saw one at auction sell for 10,000 . It would be alot cheaper in the long run. Dont forget because of the fire it eats off all the original zink coating on metal. There are spots you just cant get too, like inside the frame rails. Even if you were to fix the car, it would rust very quickly from the inside out. seems like to much work that would be wasted. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 334 Registered: 4-2002 |
Respect for the thought of restoration, but that car is dead! | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2002 |
Eric,man you are the most optimistic individual i've ever known.now,i'm not knocking you but you must take into consideration the structural integrity of the steel after such an ordeal,but whatever your decision i sincerely wish you the BEST of luck.that poor car is about as much a totaled car as i've seen and if you revive it it would be a fantastic achievement (minor miracle)mmmm no, MAJOR miracle maybe you could let this one go and try another project but if you prove us wrong,well more power to ya! BEST WISHES and GOOD LUCK!!! Frankie | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3388 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, If you restore this it should be in the Guiness World Book Of Records. Don't take this wrong but I don't think anybody would try to make "chicken salad" out of "chicken sh*t". Regards, | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3387 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, That engine looks like it took a hell of a lot of heat. All the seals are going to have to be replaced are you going to tear it down and re seal it. | ||
| Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
New member Username: Trinacria Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sell what ever parts you can and use the money to buy another one - it will be much much cheaper. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2200 Registered: 2-2001 |
You are probably going to find that the body panels are as wavy as the North Shore in December. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 174 Registered: 11-2000 |
More than likely he will enroll the help of friends at the bodyshop class in the project. He is seriously excited about getting started on the car. What else would a 17 year old car buff like more than to talk about the Ferrari he is restoring in his class. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3372 Registered: 2-2001 |
You must have one hell of a buddy who would take on the "PROJECT." I hope he is still your buddy after this is over. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3371 Registered: 2-2001 |
ERIK, God Bless ya man for your optimism. GOOD LUCK and keep us posted. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 172 Registered: 11-2000 |
I will be pulling the engine this month, a friend who is attending a Boise State Univ. autobody class is making this his project for the semester so bodywork and paint cost will be materials only. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2197 Registered: 2-2001 |
I would mount it on a pole and paint it with a brush and make a Mail box out of it. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2146 Registered: 12-2000 |
Dude, she's gone. There are plenty other GTS' out there that just need a good rub 'n buff and they're good to go... Keep working on your GT4 project. P.S. Did you get my pictures? | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2000 |
Here she is on my driveway. The least I could do is turn her into a lightweight track car.      The front end of the car is in decent shape still, as well as the undercarrige and lower engine compartment. | ||
| Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member Username: H2oquick Post Number: 209 Registered: 8-2001 |
I say let the old horse die. After 2 fires I think Enzo was trying to tell someone something. Erik I am sure you probably could get it back together one day and I am sure you have a plan, but I think more bad will come before good. Best of luck either way. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 401 Registered: 5-2001 |
How about pulling that car out, blow all the stuff off it and take a few more pictures for us. No offence, but there must be something you're seeing that we can't. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 2194 Registered: 2-2001 |
You cannot be serious. You could buy a 550 cheaper than you could ever repair that car even if someone gave you everything you needed, which I doubt they will. Ambition is a good thing but you have to draw a line and pick your battles. You have done a commendable job so far but at some point it is time to "Call in the Family" and I believe it's here in this case. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3352 Registered: 2-2001 |
Erik, We talked before when this happened. You can't be serious about putting it back together. Tell me you are joking. If you are serious you got a hell of a set of kahunnas. Price wise would be astronomical and I don't know how old you are but hopefully very young because this one is a long timer restoration. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 116 Registered: 11-2001 |
Wow. Best of luck on the project. I am wondering, however, about the structural integrity of the car after the second fire. Doesn't heat weaken the steel significantly? Not knocking your choices, just concerned about a fellow Fchat'er safety. | ||
| Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 170 Registered: 11-2000 |
Some may remember January 6th as a bad day for me. After welding, something smoldered for a while. I worked in the shop for a good 15 minutes after I finished welding. I went inside my home, 45 minutes later my neighbor pounded on my door and yelled that my shop was on fire, I retort with "Yeah right." He says he is serious. I grab the camera and see this...  Here is what is left of the car I thought was insured.  I am now fully aware of how little homeowners covers. I ask of anyone who has spare parts that can afford to give them away, please sent them my way. I will pay all shipping charges. I have undertaken a full restoration of this car once(I purchased it after it has a somewhat serious engine fire) and do not currently have the means to repurchase all the necessary parts. The shop in which the car burned is now nearly rebuilt. Here is a partial list of needed items: All windows aluminum window trim mirrors targa top door panels steering wheel horn button seat belts floor mats window pillars felt and rubber tail lights rear bumper emblems license lights rear shocks & springs bushings wheels rear brake lines door latches light switch stalk shift knob cam gears fuel injection system air ducts rear wheel liners torque arm busings air filter water and oil senders rear wiring loom trunk carpet rear hood struts windshield wipers louver covers gas tank sender brake cable pulleys seats e brake handle/button upholstry aluminum backing visors interior light fuse and relay panel & cover left headlight housing gas cap window motors and pulleys Yeah, it is a long list...I hope to complete the project within a year. I only got to drive the car about 10 miles upon the completion the first go around and it has me hooked. Thank you all for taking the time to look this post over, I just don't feel like giving up on this one. Erik [email protected] Here is a link to more pics of my first restoration. http://www.ejentertainment.com/pictures/308ferrari/index.htm |