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Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 706 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 5:29 pm: | |
I gotta say move on. To many 328's to look at. I would rather have an average car at an average price than a story car at top dollar.And most cars are selling for bottom price right now not average. |
Mark Pautz (Malfark)
New member Username: Malfark
Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, November 08, 2002 - 4:10 pm: | |
Tommy - I'm also looking at replacing rubber. Any advice on a good place to buy? Online? Cheers, MARK |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 276 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:28 pm: | |
There are lots of no story 328's. I would move on. Problems are rarely simple even less likely to be cheap with Ferraris. Find a no story car and you will be miles and $1000's ahead! Dave |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 411 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:19 pm: | |
I would request a price adjustment to reflect the cost of replacing EVERY piece of rubber under the hood. Then I would take it home and replace EVERY piece of rubber under the hood. Who wants to guess why I know this to be good advice? |
Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Junior Member Username: Todd328gts
Post Number: 209 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 9:22 pm: | |
Carl, I am a bit more optimistic than most people...735 miles sounds like you might have found a diamond in the rough. It doesn't take much to get the car up to primo condition...even if you have a garage queen. It is up to you at this point in the car's life to do some replacing, adjusting and then most importantly...exercize it regularly...then just keep the maintainence schedule tight and you will be one happy camper...feel free to give me a call...you have my # Cheers, TTG |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 407 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 7:20 pm: | |
Is that because you know this car or because it obviously hasn't been driven in the past 15 years or both? |
David Jones (Dave)
Member Username: Dave
Post Number: 419 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 5:40 pm: | |
If you are talking about a 328 with 735 miles on it, Run Away... |
Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
New member Username: Carl_rose
Post Number: 10 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 4:23 pm: | |
Well everyone the plot seems to have thickened.... Seller has decided he may be willing to move a bit on his price consequently the dealer is now re-interested in the transaction. Car never reached the inspection stage before. Shall be done tomm at the dealer & then we can figure out exactly what problems it needs repaired & how this will influence selling price. In the midst of all this I've become more interested in the 735-mile car major service (done by owner) this year being oferred through another Ferrari dealership... I'll keep everyone posted. Any thoughts on this latest development? Carl |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 695 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 3:12 pm: | |
My buddies 328 lights up the slowdown light from time to time.Always goes away with new set of plugs. obviously something is fouling them but it does correct it. |
J. R. Vallandingham (Jrvall)
New member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 1:59 pm: | |
Having an 'inspection sticker' means very little' in many cases unfortunately, other than you won't get pulled over and ticketed for an expired one...lol. I did a local '94' Diablo recently with a 'new' sticker very high emissions and "NO" cats. . Money is thicker than legalities in most parts of the world ;-). General rule of thumb I use on Ferrari problems or suspected problems is...better to be safe than sorry....the money and grief you save, just might be your own. When you play with fire and used cars it's easy to get burned........it's a jungle out there...be careful. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1630 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:42 pm: | |
Jr is in Tx, why not have him look at it |
Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
New member Username: Carl_rose
Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 12:39 pm: | |
Thanks everyone. The "slow down" light does light up at initial turn of the key (check function) and when driving, comes on for a few secs, goes off for a few secs, returns, etc. Unfortunately don't have the facilities to do the emissions testing myself (or the self-test dx plug) would passing TX emissions requirements indicate the convertor is OK? (and thus more likely the ECU or sensor?) Thanks once again, Carl
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J. R. Vallandingham (Jrvall)
New member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:19 am: | |
When the slow down lights come on it's because the thermal probes in the cats detect an overheating condition, caused by either a miss or just plain running rich or both. The cats overheat because they are doing their job of killing pollutants. OR....the probes/control unit/units are bad. CO% & HCppm should be checked at the test plug 'before the cats' to determine running condition. High CO% or High HCppm indicates a miss. High #'s pre-cat would be anything over 1.2% CO or 150ppm HC on warm engine. If the CO & HC's spec out, the control units likely bad. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1162 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:54 am: | |
More likely cause of #3 is that the ECU for the warning light is wacky (especially if the warning light comes on immediately at cold light-off and/or if the self test is not working well -- is the self-test working?) -- ~$1K retail discount IMO which would also easily cover the thermocouple being bad if that's the case instead (minimum DIY cost is probably ~$400 for the ECU from the usual discount F parts suppliers + 1 hour labor). Converters really can't cause overheating by being "bad" -- it's more that if overheating had/has really occurred, the ceramic substrate in the converter can melt (which can partially block-up the converter so the symptom would be no power at higher RPM and/or ineffective emission reduction rather than the warning light coming on -- so running well and passing emissions with a low HC/CO content (like CO<0.5%) would be a good sign for the converter. If the warning light is "on" for more than several minutes have a look at the exhaust system itself -- if the warning light is truly indicating a bad condition (higher than 940 deg C) things near the thermocouple would be glowing "orange" at least. R&Ring the Starter/Solenoid on the transverse V8s isn't horrible, but still a ~$1K retail hassle IMO (with the minimum DIY cost being a couple~few hours labor + $2~300ish for parts/rebuild). Good luck with the deal... |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 152 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:39 am: | |
Sorry for the double post - shall never happen again, promise |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 151 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:38 am: | |
Starter - not difficult, probably solenoid. Starter can be removed quite easily working trough left wheel well. I believe this has been discussed before on F-chat. Solenoid is easy to change once starter is out. Slow down problem - I think frequently is the keyword. Do you mean flashing (=slight overheat) or steady light once in a while? Could be thermocouple, cat or controller. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 150 Registered: 3-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:37 am: | |
Starter - not difficult, probably solenoid. Starter can be removed quite easily working trough left wheel well. I believe this has been discussed before on F-chat. Solenoid is easy to change once starter is out. Slow down problem - I think frequently is the keyword. Do you mean flashing (=slight overheat) or steady light once in a while? Could be sensor, cat or controller. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 362 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:18 am: | |
$100 for desklid struts.... I have a few acres in Florida I could sell you.
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TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1624 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:15 am: | |
wondering why a dealer took himeself out of it. does he know something about the car that you don't, I would be skeptical of a dealer walking away from money. Slow down could be a couple of things from 100 to 1500. might want to understand this better. other issues could be ok if discounted correctly. When buying an f-car, even with complete service budget 2-3k to sort out the problems that always appear when ownership is transferred |
Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
New member Username: Carl_rose
Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 10:06 am: | |
Hi again everyone, Almost bought a car Saturday but the dealer brokering the car has decided they don't want to be part of the transaction anymore - thought both parties were too inflexible in their conditions. Seller still wants to sell me the car, but it has the following issues: 1. Decklid stuts weak ($100) 2. Intermittant starter dysfunction. I figure this is either starter ($550), solenoid (?) or poor contacts but don't know without removal. How difficult is this for a mechanically inclined person? (1988 328 GTS) 3. "Slow down" light comes on frequently. Car has passed emissions past 5 years (not sure how long light has been on), runs perfectly - I am thinking possibilities are convertor or sensor & I could distinguish by emissions-testing the car & if it passed convertor must be good. Am I correct? I'm trying to decide what an appropriate factor (in terms of $) to budget should I still decide to buy this car. As always, any advice or opinions from the Ferrari experts are welcome...
Carl [email protected] |