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magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3532
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 8:49 am: | |
Stephen, Ed Gualt posted that NAPA had the flanges. Just take the cat to them and match up with their book. I don't believe he posted the part no.. You can also measure from center of one bolt to the center of the other ones and get a idea of what size you will need. Then measure the length of the cat and have unit made up accordingly |
Stephen E. Schroeder (Seschroeder)
New member
Username: Seschroeder
Post Number: 36
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 6:47 am: | |
Alright, the answer seems to be to remove/replace the cats and not worry with the lights. If I do that won't I be forced to deal with the emissions/air pump system? It seems that "test" pipes do not have bungs for emissions. At one point someone posted the NAPA part number for building one's own test pipes - it was for the end pieces. Anyone remember? |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3524
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 9:41 pm: | |
OK so Tommy cleared that up. I think it is strange that both controllers are bad but I guess anything can happen. |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 427
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 5:50 pm: | |
All the 82's had 2 cats. So did the 83's. In 1984 they went to one and relocated the warning light (only one) up in the dash pod. |
Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member
Username: Eric308gtsiqv
Post Number: 476
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 3:28 pm: | |
Stephen,
Just to add some additional input regarding the use of Leatherique....I contacted George (the owner) about some other issues, and asked him what the proper method was for thinning the dye (it's been a month or so since he showed me, and I couldn't recall the proper ratio). When doing my interior, I used a hobby style airbrush and white cotton rags to apply the dye. You will certainly want to thin the dye with water if using an airbrush (add a little bit to the glass bottle that attaches to the sprayer). Even still, the spray nozzle will clog up a little after several minutes of use (or if there is a good amount of humidity in the air), so you'll have to constantly clean out the "gunk" with a toothpick.
George replied: "Most importantly, thinning the dye should be done a teaspoonful at a time,
use very hot water, and stir well after each addition. It will thin out
fast with just a bit of water as it is water soluble."
He further states: "If someone
has a technical questions, have them email me directly, and I'll respond
immediately and specifically."
George (and associates) can be reached at: [email protected]
He and his company are extremely busy filling orders, restoring car interiors, and restoring leather furniture; but he always responds in very short order.
Hope this helps answer a few of your questions.
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member
Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 106
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 11:42 am: | |
Re Leatherique: If you're going to spray it with a small airbrush, you'll need to thin it. Brushing doesn't work very well. You can "rub" it in like you would with stain. See the article at www.fca-se.org/concours.htm
for additional details.
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magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3519
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 8:01 am: | |
Exactly Stephen that's what I was trying to determine. What seems strange is that both lights stay on unless your car has only one control unit. Does your car have two cats or one inline? Some only had one. I thought this may account for both lights coming on and only one controller. |
Stephen E. Schroeder (Seschroeder)
New member
Username: Seschroeder
Post Number: 35
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 6:53 am: | |
Magoo:
The lights come on when the key is turned on and stay on. The "Seat-Belt" lights comes on and goes off as it should. Must be the control units. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 436
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 6:13 pm: | |
Stephen (RE: THICK LEATHERIQUE DYE)
The Leatherique dye can be thinned with water like latex paint.
How are you applying it? A brush will almost always put it on too heavy. See my earlier post.
'Gards, |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3513
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 5:59 pm: | |
Stephen, Do the lights come on when you turn the ignition on and then go out? Do they then come on after running the car? Or do they stay on all the time after you turn the ignition on? |
JRV (Jrvall)
Junior Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 91
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 5:00 pm: | |
Correct, the control units are in the passenger foot well. As far as getting new ones, try the ferrarichat sponser guy Sodacom to see if they are availible and exact pricing or your favorite parts source. To the best of my knowledge they 'are not' repairable. They're just expoy blocks, what's on the inside I don't know, never destroyed one to see what was inside ;-). They are remote thermometers...they read the signal from the thermal probes and deliver the proper message to the dash warning lights. Cats can reach temps of 1800+ degrees if they are overheating, and can start fires . |
Stephen E. Schroeder (Seschroeder)
New member
Username: Seschroeder
Post Number: 34
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 4:08 pm: | |
The cats are still on the car, replacing them is on the list of "things-to-do" this winter. Forgive my ignorance but $450.00 each seems a bit much for control units. Certainly they do more than simply control the "Slow-Down" lights. Mounted above the passenger footwell are they? The vehicle is just back from Norwood's and its 30,000 mile check. Runs great, smooth-steady idle, seems to have power, starts immediately, etc. Does get really bad gas mileage - in the range of 8 to 10 MPG. Who might have the control units/ I suspect that they can't be "rebuilt". |
JRV (Jrvall)
Junior Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:57 am: | |
Ok 82...the strongest possibility is the control units have gone bad. Usualy the lights don't stay on even if the thermal probe tips have been destroyed or cables cut. The control units were about $450 ea. (i think) last set I replaced .
The problem is, the cats and exhaust can seriously overheat if the digiplex's fail, plug wires fail, injection system runs overly rich for whatever reason. This can lead to header failure and possible warping of exhaust valves. Which is why the lights were installed to begin with. If the engine and it's systems are up to spec and running with the proper CO/HC then you don't actualy need the lights in working order. It sorta depends on how well you know your own engines song and state of being. If you're intune with your machine, then you would notice deterorating performance without being told by the lights.
Hope this helps. |
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo
Post Number: 3512
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:16 am: | |
Does your car still have the cats on it? If they were removed they could have taken the bulbs out then. |
Stephen E. Schroeder (Seschroeder)
New member
Username: Seschroeder
Post Number: 33
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:07 am: | |
Sorry, the car is a 1982 GTSi. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 1694
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 8:18 am: | |
check the archives - there are some great threads that walk you through the whole process. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Junior Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 88
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 8:15 am: | |
The 'dye' has to be thinned. Call your local upholstery shop for ingredints and ratios.
As far as the slow down lights, what year is your car? It's likely the control units went south, however more specific info is needed about the year model to make a rec as to what to do. |
Stephen E. Schroeder (Seschroeder)
New member
Username: Seschroeder
Post Number: 32
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 7:11 am: | |
Gentlemen:
I'm in the middle of a re-dye on the interior using Leatherique. It going fairly well but the Leatherique dye does seem a wee bit thick and dries quite rapidly. Any suggestions?
The "Slow-Down" lights had the blubs removed. When I discovered this I rather suspected that they would be on continually. That was, it turned out, correct. So the question is what do I do now?
Thanks in advance for the advise. |