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Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member
Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 162
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 6:27 am: | |
The Jenkins site:
http://www.ferrari.jenkins.org/
No lights at all on one side of the rocker switch could indicate a bad connection as Lawrence writes.
The lamps in the console switches are all internal in the switches. They can be replaced, but you will need to disassemble the switch and solder a new bulb with wireterminals in there. I don't know what bulbs will fit, sizewise and wattage wise. You will need to do some detective work on this. If you go to Ferrari they will most probably try to sell you a complete new switch. $$$ |
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 393
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 6:03 am: | |
Russ,
I was able to get my blower switch working properly by removing the knob with a little hex wrench. I then squirted the contact cleaner down the shaft of the switch rotating the switch as I did this. This was done about a year ago. I just went to the basement and had a look. So I never had to remove it which probably involves removing the console.
The one I plucked out was the temperature control. It got the same Wurth treatment because it had bad contacts where the wires attach underneath. Wire clips had oxidized. You just pull those two switches out.
Sorry I took so long to get back. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member
Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 955
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 6:56 pm: | |
Does anybody know how many bulbs are under the console? The rocker switch next to the antenna (don't recall off the top of my head what it's for) and the light under the pass side 'defrost' switch are both burned out. Is this 2 separate bulbs? |
VS (Vs1)
New member
Username: Vs1
Post Number: 42
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 5:02 pm: | |
"You might need to wrap light with thin layer of electrical tape to make it stay in the hole when refitting."
Yup. Replaced the bulb - that was indeed the issue with the fan light. I did break the little tabs that hold the bezel/lens in place when pulling it out - but Kurt your electrical tape trick worked wonderfully [I had already ordered a replacement today - so that will make a good spare for the future].
The heater LEDs and motor are a different beast. The heater works fine - and I can hear the motor actuating [with the car off] - just no lights on the heat side. Distribution lights work fine.
Please post a link to the Jenkin's site and I'll work on adjusting the LEDs next. Thanks again. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member
Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 160
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 6:18 am: | |
Vent light first (orange light in instrument cluster)
Carefully pry out the light - pull the bulbholder from the front part. Sometimes the plastic has deformed and things can be stuck. If you need to remove the entire panel to get to the bulbs, remove the steering wheel (6 hexheaded metric screws). Then look through the hole where the fan light was and you will see the instrument cluster fastening bolt (philips head) a couple of inches behind the front.
4 bolts in all, one behind each orange light and one behind each outermost lower light (green fog lamp light and red generator light).
Often only the two upper ones are there. I only use the two upper ones - enough to hold the panel.
You might need to wrap light with thin layer of electrical tape to make it stay in the hole when refitting.
The heater LEDs on the warm/cold rocker switch is a different story. The LEDs are actuated by the heater valve motor. The motor sends feedback signals to the switch to tell you the actual position of the valve(motor). Same goes for the distribution side of the rocker switch.
No lights would normally indicate that the applicable motor hasn't moved - either because of the switch malfunctioning or the motor itself u/s.
On the Jenkins website you will find the 328 Technical manual- that manual contains info on how to adjust the LEDs on these switches. They will need to be removed for this. However I doubt that an adjustment can fix the problem, but worth a try.
Strangely enough the left and right switches are not interchangeable. They are quite expensive, approx. 400USD in Europe.
Something to work on now - get back to us with the results. |
VS (Vs1)
New member
Username: Vs1
Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 2:29 pm: | |
Kurt - you were correct. I just tested and everything seems to be working fans/heater, etc. - just lights are out. The RH vent light is out and the LH heater controller lights are out [but the fan lights work?]. Any idea how I get to the Vent light and I'm assuming the console will have to come out for heater controller [it also looks like it's one complete unit???]. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member
Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 159
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 12:34 pm: | |
The knobs are fixed with a small hex screw, metric of course. If you want to remove or get to the switch/rheostat you will need to remove the console top from the center console. Can't quite remember how right now, there are screws under the ashtray insert and possibly under aft row of switches - not quite sure but other threads are describing this.
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Russ Fairbanks (Russf)
Junior Member
Username: Russf
Post Number: 70
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 12:06 pm: | |
Lawrence. I have the same problem on my 328 but I am not sure how to get the switch out. Do you put a thin blade under the knob or do you have to take out the console. I am reluctant to pry up the knob for fear of breaking something. |
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence
Post Number: 380
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:36 am: | |
The blower knob on my 328 quit working properly last summer. The blower would not adjust until you turned it up all the way, then blower would run full blast.
Turned out the switch was dirty. I plucked the switch out of the console and sprayed some Wurth contact cleaner into it. Problem solved.
You might have a dirty/oxidzed switch. |
VS (Vs1)
New member
Username: Vs1
Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:29 am: | |
Very odd. We had the RH fan running [but no light] and the heat adjustments worked quite well. The LH fan wouldn't run [we had the light on this side] and the heat adjustment wouldn't come up [or the lights are out - but I figured they were LEDs???]. I'll try checking on the RH side bulb this eve. Thanks. |
Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member
Username: Kurtk328
Post Number: 158
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:16 am: | |
Exactly right - respective light turns on to tell you that the applicable (right or left) fan is on.
The owners manual is a bit cryptic about this, but that's the way it is supposed to work.
If you ran the right side without the light turning on, the bulb could be gone or the bulb fixture has fallen out of the socket and enlightening the space behind the instruments.
Be careful when you take out the lights - the plastic they are made of gets very brittle and breaks easily.
Difficult to get new ones |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 2717
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:11 am: | |
yep, that's how mine work too. |
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member
Username: Tillman
Post Number: 150
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:03 am: | |
Are you speaking of the twin yellow lights above the instruments? It's my understanding that they are supposed to be on when the heater motors are running. That's how mine work. |
VS (Vs1)
New member
Username: Vs1
Post Number: 24
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 9:01 am: | |
Driving my new baby yesterday - the LH Vent Fan Warning light came on. Switched the fan off and just ran the RH side [which worked fine] - it's starting to get a bit chilly in OH at this time of year. Anyway, couldn't find anything about the vent fan on our fine owners manual other than in the diagram [which says it's a warning light]. Checked the fuse - it's fine. Any ideas on what else I should be checking? Thanks. |