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jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Junior Member
Username: Atheyg

Post Number: 111
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 9:49 pm:   

John,

No problems, hose is held firmly with brackett
Erik R. Jonsson (Gamester)
Junior Member
Username: Gamester

Post Number: 205
Registered: 11-2000
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 4:34 pm:   

Number for a hose place in Costa Mesa I was given who makes hoses for Ferrari Service of Costa Mesa...714-546-9922. Somewhere less than $50 per hose. They ordered in the Metric Stainless Braided Ferrari type hose just for US!
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member
Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 127
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 8:19 am:   

Pete, you should make a hose or two and make a few bucks on the internet.

Sure wish I would have know earlier...oh well
John A (Jarends)
Junior Member
Username: Jarends

Post Number: 176
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 7:26 am:   

I see Jeff has a 328, is the problems the same??

I haven't check any of these items but have smelled gas when the tanks where filled and full.

Thanks for the tip on turning the nozzle around, I stand there dripping in gas and most times never shutting it off on time and loading the overflow.

Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member
Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 674
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 2:28 am:   

Peter: Is there anything you FORGOT to take a picture of?

Hans. (Whose hoses are still intact for the time being.)
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter

Post Number: 2253
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 10:56 pm:   

George, you should've gotten a hold of me earlier. I had hoses made up for me, around $200 Cdn FOR BOTH!

An industrial supplier (Finning Int'l) to the company I work for, made them for me. Finally found the damn banjos in Quebec! Apparently, they are used on some sort of cement-mixing machinery!!!

oilhoses.jpg
banjo.jpg
George Daina (Oof_n_goof)
Junior Member
Username: Oof_n_goof

Post Number: 126
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 8:31 am:   

Tell you another area to watch out for...the lower oil cooler line was sitting on the frame rail...must have come from the factory like that or maybe drooped down through the years, anyway, the stainless steel braiding rubbed through, oil all over the engine as I was cruising the interstate, and eventually cought on fire before I even noticed it....thank goodness the fire was contained to the exhaust system that was saturated with oil.

Another problem with the Oil cooler lines, if they are original, replace them...the upper line developed a leak, no rubbing or any kind, but the rubber deteriorated over the course of 18 years of driving.

Ferrari is nuts, wants 810 bucks per hose...sheesh..problem is no one could make the hose, no one had the correct banjo fitting and no one had the correct hose id. Ended paying 340.00 including ups red per hose.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member
Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 656
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 11:06 pm:   

Yeah, you got it. Turn the nozzle upside down and point it down the hose. Luckily, I gas up at the same station everytime. They've gotten to know me. "Don't touch his windows. He doesn't want water running into the weatherstripping!!"
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter

Post Number: 2248
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 10:21 pm:   

Good Lord Hans, how do they get the damn nozzle in there? I lterally have to insert the nozzle upside down, so that the gas flows without tripping off the pump (because if you fill holding it normally, the sharp bend of the filler just splashes back the fuel at the nozzle and shuts it off).
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member
Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 644
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 1:10 am:   

Yeah, that big hose is a piece of work. The real problem is that the nozzle from the gas pump can exert physical pressure on that hose, possibly stressing it. And remember, I'm in Oregon, which is a "non-pump-your-own" gas state. Each guy does it differently.
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member
Username: Newman

Post Number: 754
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 9:49 pm:   

You should check all the hoses. The right tank on my gtb has pile of vapor lines going to a canister inside the right rear wheel well. The a/c compressor hides it well. The clamps on mine were loose, the lines were rotten.
david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda

Post Number: 313
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 9:29 pm:   

Hey, if you guys want to check on the biggest fire hazard, look at the rubber filler neck hose that goes between the metal filler neck and the gas tank. On the Tom Yang site he describes a friends 308 GTS going up in flames while he is in it...After reading that I had mine checked by my mechanic,...yup, rubber hose is all cracked and just about ready to go. Check em! I ended up having ALL the fuel related hoses replaced. Just didn't think of it when I had all the coolant ones replaced a year before....
Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
Member
Username: Ricrain

Post Number: 283
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, December 02, 2002 - 1:10 pm:   

The problem Hans described is caused primarily by an improper mounting of the right side coolant pipe. No bracket, sleeve or other devices are needed if the aluminum pipe is installed correctly. The �depth� to which it is pushed into the coolant hoses sets the distance from the tank to the pipe, and the alternator pulley to the pipe. Push it in too far, and the pipe will rub the pulley� not far enough, and it rubs the tank or tank strap.

Loosen the straps on both the upper and lower coolant hoses, and set the pipe at a better distance. A little lubricant on the pipe ends makes this job a little easier. If you break the seal of the coolant system in the process, don't forget to bleed the system.
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member
Username: Owens84qv

Post Number: 564
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 9:49 am:   

Hans, thanks for the heads-up. My 308 is up on stands getting other work done, but I'll be sure to check this area and address appropriately.
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Junior Member
Username: Atheyg

Post Number: 106
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, December 01, 2002 - 12:30 am:   

ON my 328 there is a rubber grommet connected to a small bracket coming from the alternator bolt that holds the pipe firmly in place resting on the lower part of the fuel tank
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Member
Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 722
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 11:50 pm:   

Stu,

It would apply to the 308's as well. There is no difference between the gt4 and the 308. Except the seats for the groceries.

M
stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member
Username: Balataboy

Post Number: 299
Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 11:44 pm:   

Is this an issue specific to the GT4 or is this a possible hazard for all 308's in general?
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter

Post Number: 2234
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 11:04 pm:   

Same thing here Hans, except I didn't have as much wear. I zap-strapped some old coolant hose around the pipe so it couldn't do any (more) damage.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member
Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 611
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 10:38 pm:   

Was under the car playing with the shift linkage when I noticed that the aluminum coolant pipe coming from the engine going to the passage under the car was tight against the gas tank. I pulled it back and noticed that the pipe had a flat spot worn on it, but more worrysome was that it had worn thru the coating on the gas tank and was rubbing against the metal!

I put some of that sticky gooey rubber tape stuff on the tank. Should do, but I'll keep an eye on it.

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