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William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member
Username: Billb

Post Number: 116
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 9:12 am:   

For what it's worth, I start the car every couple of weeks. The garage is kept at 50 degrees, and I also use Mobil-1 so the oil issue isn't a problem. This practice alleviates the concern about timing belts deforming under the tensioners over extended periods of inactivity. After following my own advice, I found no adverse effects on the engine internals during a recent overhaul.
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 3660
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 9:26 pm:   

When I stored the car I would temporarily cap off the tail pipes.
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 255
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 4:55 pm:   

If you are not going to get the oil up to the temperature that it expells water vapors (above 212 dF) AND give it time to expell water vapors (20 minutes above 212) then you are better off leaving the car sit rather than start it. By the time yo do this, you could have driven it enough miles to do the job properly, and lubricate the tranny, whell bearings,...

Buy a batery charger and charge the batery at least once a month.
Coop (360)
New member
Username: 360

Post Number: 45
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 3:10 pm:   

ROB,

Careful how you handle snakes. Look what happend to this Ferrari owner in India !!!

http://socalaudi.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=6815&category_id=2

Byron (Bmyth)
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Username: Bmyth

Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 2:30 pm:   

Dave328GTB...ROFLMAO!!...that's too funny!

Man, makes me feel fortunate that we only really get ants,possums,and spiders in California... but then again, we get earthquakes, too... so maybe having a hoover handy isn't that much to ask for!
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2907
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:16 pm:   

Which one? There's 4 RX7's on the property. Two actually run.
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 1027
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:12 pm:   

Shouldn't that RX7 be up on blocks? :-)
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Junior Member
Username: Tifosi12

Post Number: 131
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:37 am:   

Rob, I take it that yellow barn hosts the F Chat server and that red vehicle acts as the backup power generator?
;-)
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2906
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:29 am:   

Not all the thumbnails are working yet, but here's pics of our property...

http://www.roblay.com/southlake_home.htm
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2905
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:26 am:   

Umm Jim, no comment. I hear the F.P.S. might be around.

I told you I lived next to a trailer park, I wasn't kiddin.
Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
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Username: Bryanp

Post Number: 20
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:24 am:   

The possums in northern virginia used to relish all of the tasty fiberglass in dad's twin-cam Lotus Europa - ate right thru the firewall. I remember one February we flushed out a momma and 4 babies.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 680
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:14 am:   

Rob: They WILL crawl into tailpipes!
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member
Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 1959
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:10 am:   

we had a previous discussion where some one pointed out that just starting the car and letting it idle for a few minutes might be worse than not starting at all because moisture can built up in the exhust and rust out the pipes. I say drive the cars once a week or once every two weeks when the weather permits
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 1025
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:07 am:   

Rob, is that the shed where you keep the Ferrari?
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member
Username: Hardtop

Post Number: 315
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 11:01 am:   

Rodents were particularly fond of the 348 I used to own. Their favorite hideouts were in the front bonnet where nesting in the air vents was a favored activity. Once, I was getting ready to vacuum the front compartment and when I opened the hood, there were mice everywhere! I had the vacuum wand in my hand (a Hoover windtunnel) and tried to catch one with the edging tip. To my surprise, the mouse stuck to it and, after a few seconds, got sucked into the vacuum. I caught three more!
Bull snakes are very common here as well and I often find them prowling the garage. I would like some more, but my wife hates them.
I used to put 50 cent mouse traps in and around the 348. They were very effective.
Mice like sports cars because it's easy for them to jump from the ground to the suspension and find ways inside.
I have read discussions by oil and anti freeze engineers where they suggest starting a car once a month and bringing it to full operating temperature.

Dave
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts

Post Number: 2900
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:12 am:   

Easy solution, Jennie and I have a 5 foot Bull Snake in the shed. I hope he doesn't take home in the exhaust. Think of the poor bastard Porsche on my tail when a 5 foot Bull Snake shoots out my tail pipe on his hood. More ironic if it was a Viper!

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john beaucher (Spider348)
New member
Username: Spider348

Post Number: 7
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 8:49 am:   

Interesting question.
In years past I always followed a regimented procedure to store my Ferrari, Porsche or whatever. Remove battery, over-inflate tires etc etc etc.
Then the rodent problems started.
Began with my former 308. Had to start the car. Upon starting the car billowed smoke, flames, then shot a mouse out of the tailpipe like he was shot out of a cannon. Stood with a fire extinguisher till the nest completely burned.
Couple of years later they nested in my then P 930. Did approximately $1k damge. Carpet, wiring etc.
Last year was the pinnacle. Nested under the engine shrouding in my wife's Lexus SC400. Repair bill came to $4k. Had to file an insurance claim.
These various cars were all "protected" with moth balls etc. Nothing worked.
This year I will:
Start and drive the cars when the roads are not salt/ sand covered.
Try the electronic pest units sold by Home Depot etc. Hopefully these will be effective.
magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member
Username: Magoo

Post Number: 3644
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 9:33 pm:   

On a day or a week of weather where there is no snow or salt on the roads it is good to drive the car during the winter. The best thing to do is prime, crank, the engine first by cutting the ignition, coils etc., until the oil guage starts to move then cut the ignition back on and fire it up.
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member
Username: Originalsinner

Post Number: 768
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 6:09 pm:   

I hear a lot of people say they go out and start their cars every week or 2 during the winter. It seems to me with the extreme cold (if garage is not heated) and oil time to refill filters and gain pressure (regardles if garage is heated or not) and thick oil in crankcase from cold 20w50 (garage not heated again) That you are better off taking the tires of the ground ,unhooking the battery and letting it sit. More wear and tear and damage possible from constant cold weather infrequent starts.I am no longer going to start cars up till spring. I might be bias as only one of my cars is injected and the rest are carbed but it still seems like a lot of wear and stress on ice cold timing belts on ice cold engine and oil.

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