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david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 343
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 4:16 pm: | |
My currency converter says that works out to $1575 plus shipping, not bad. But I recall they run "specials" on these wheels periodically...didn't someone pick up a set last year from them for about $1250 delivered? If you are patient, I would wait them out, or inquire... |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 901
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 1:01 pm: | |
985 GBP for 4 a couple of months ago. www.superformance.co.uk |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 160
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 12:52 pm: | |
Does anyone know what a set of wheels from Superformance would cost and what is their website address. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter
Post Number: 2295
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 10:59 pm: | |
I remember a guy in England having 328 wheels on a GT4 (and it looked damn good too!), so it is possible. But yes, who knows if he had the centres turned out...
Ferrarichat is counting on you Dave... |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 341
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 10:43 pm: | |
Steve,
I am one lazy ass....but I WILL take the measurements on the next oil change, which is comning up. I have a digital caliper, so I can give both metric and inch measurements...maybe we can find out once and for all if this hub diameter stuff is true or not. But I remember clearly emailing someone who had to mill the centers on the early 328 wheels to fit a 308. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1248
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 9:52 pm: | |
Dave H. -- Got to say that I generally agree with your taste/reasoning that it would be better for James H. to "convert" those 328 ABS wheels into some aluminum reproduction 16" QV wheels, but I have to disagree about needing "milling of the wheels to fit" in this case -- if there is a positive side to using spacer/adapters it's that it gives the opportunity to compensate for the hub diameter differences within the spacer/adapter.
Now that you've got a 328 non-ABS how about posting some 328 non-ABS wheel and/or lugbolt data the next time you have them off? I too have "heard" that the 328 hub diameter is different (i.e., not 67mm like the 308s) so 328 non-ABS wheels would require machining to fit on a 308 directly, but nobody has ever posted any 328 wheel facts (either non-ABS or ABS) that I can recall. |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
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Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 359
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 9:12 pm: | |
Read about 308 Brembo, cross drilled rotors to find out. ,, ,, , You have to start with the bearings. Then design a wheel. . .. . . . |
Edward G. Salla (350hpmondial)
Member
Username: 350hpmondial
Post Number: 358
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 9:09 pm: | |
Will not work. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 337
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 7:29 pm: | |
James,
I wouldn't go to the bother...328 wheels will look a little odd on a 308, and (IMHO) the 89 328 wheels will look REALLY odd...BTW, the hubs may be a different size and require milling of the wheels to fit. Ebay those wheels and buy the reproduction QV wheels from Superformance...If it all works out, it will be close to a "wash". I really hate to see another "FrankenFerrari" mix-mash of parts and years that don't agree...
Just my opinion, and you may consider it worthless... :-) |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1247
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 4:57 pm: | |
James H. -- here's the definition of "wheel offset":
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm
Although it shows measuring from the inner bead to the mounting plane and from the outer bead to the mounting plane if the inner and outer beads are similar you can just measure from the innermost surface to the mounting plane and from the outermost surface to the mounting plane.
Just doing a comparison of the measurements from the innermost surface to the mounting plane is OK too IF the wheels you are comparing are of the same width.
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James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 159
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 4:42 pm: | |
Steve,
How is the offset measured. Is it as simple as putting a straigh edge across the rear of the rim and measuring to the rim where it would contact the rotor and minus the differance between the 328 and the 308 or is it more complicated than that. How about if I tried bolting them on the car and if they spin freely without hitting anything, does that mean they would work or would that screw up the geometry somewhere. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1246
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 4:11 pm: | |
James H. -- if you've already got the 328 ABS wheels:
1. What are the front/rear offsets?
2. Is the center hub diameter 67mm or something else? |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 158
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 3:55 pm: | |
My QV now has them darn metric tires and they are in need of replacing. I have a set of stock 328 wheels with very good tires on them and thought it would be nice to put them to use and also be able to save some money by not having to buy new wheels or tires. It would be nice if I can find a set of 16" wheels for the QV but it will probably be pretty expensive. |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 899
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 3:15 pm: | |
Just curious why you would want those on a QV. The factory 16's look much better on that car, they just suit the style of the car. If you need QV wheels, they are available, just call around. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1244
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 2:58 pm: | |
They won't fit directly as Paul N. noted, but with the necessary spacers/longer lugbolts/adapters/etc... I believe it's not impossible (i.e., they share the 108mm bolt circle). You might ask the seller if he/she knows or can measure the front/rear offsets on the 328 ABS wheels -- subtract 11mm and you'll know the approx. thickness front/rear you'd need to add to your '84 308QV (if it's ~20mm or less you can go the spacers + longer lugbolts route, but if >20mm you'd probably be better off with the bolt-on adapter approach). |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 898
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 1:32 pm: | |
They will not fit because the offset is different to fit the unique brakes. |
mike 308 (Concorde)
Junior Member
Username: Concorde
Post Number: 65
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 12:52 pm: | |
I know that non-ABS 328 wheels will... not sure about the ABS ones. |
James H. (Jamesh)
Junior Member
Username: Jamesh
Post Number: 155
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, December 23, 2002 - 12:47 pm: | |
Does anyone know if the 16" wheels from an 89 328 (ABS Brakes) will fit on an 84 308 GTS. |