| Author | Message | ||
| Eric Stringer (Vette79)
New member Username: Vette79 Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2002 |
cant help ya with the slow window.. looks like a few have the same problem i would have to say its ferrari related. could be electrical design.. after a few years its possible not as much current is getting to the motor on the passenger side. if both window motors were running slowly and you were savvy with your model of car i would remove the door panel and check the motor. ive seen many times where it is just a window motor/mechanism that needs cleaned and lubed. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 117 Registered: 9-2002 |
My 328 windows work as well as on my prelude....though my 82 633CSi are not slow...they crawl....I can 'race' a red light by how trying to put the window down all the way...the light mostly wins :p | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 835 Registered: 5-2002 |
not seeing the smoke I can tell you my valve seals were a little worn in my 80-308gtsi and when the car sat for a while the oil passed and when I started it, it smoked a little. We're not electing a new pope here. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1353 Registered: 4-2002 |
TTG MY TR HAS THE SAME PROBLEM, VERY SLOW, I THINK ITS A FERRARI THING... DOG MAN | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 297 Registered: 6-2002 |
I got one for you with my 328.... The passenger window is slow going up and down...is this common? and how do you fix this? | ||
| Eric Stringer (Vette79)
New member Username: Vette79 Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2002 |
although I do not know the 328 model specifically, I am a car enthusiast and have been lurking about the forum. as far as the smoke goes black is oil and a thick white AFTER warm-up is antifreeze, which is VERY very bad to burn in an engine. now for the smoke on one side, John is correct. the smoke is the engine blowing water vapor(condensation) out of the tailpipe.this is normal, keep in mind that for every gallon of gas burned you create half gallon or more of water in some form. the reason you see the "smoke"(vapor) out of one side only is becaues of the cars design. the design allows a cold engine to blow the condensation out of the car by closing one side of the exhaust, which provides more "force" due to the exhaust to remove the condensation. this is very common with the cars that are equipped with dual exhaust. back in 79 the system was already being used as it is present in my car. good luck with the rattle | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 102 Registered: 9-2002 |
blue? Wow never heard of that...nope definately and not black either. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2106 Registered: 9-2001 |
I assume this is a lite white smoke and not blue or black smoke | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2002 |
thanks  | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 182 Registered: 7-2001 |
Smoking out the back in cold weather, one of the first questions I ask when my wife got her 328. It's water vapor and will stop when warm. Why more on the driver's side??? can't tell you, but everyone I spoke to about the 328 said the same thing, don't worry about it. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 97 Registered: 9-2002 |
New thing, I noticed that Alissa loves to smoke on start up, esp. from the drivers side pipe set. (less from the passenger side set) It continues as long as she sits there. I can't comment on when I am driving, but I see no smoke from the rear window. I wanted to show my father the car, but since it snowed all I did was start her up and let her sit in the garage w/ the door open. It was VERY cold outside (~29 I would say) He didnt come for a good 2 min and it was still smoking a bit. The next day (it was ~33) I did the same thing for my very close mechanic friend. He reved her a bit in neutral to hear her wonderful growl. As he did she started to smoke much more so. I could not notice any werid smell and he said she sounded fine in his professional opinion..but then he has never seen a 328 in person in his 20+ years as a mechanic. The car just had major service done, including an oil change etc. It snowed like crazy on christmas day (when I showed my father) so the humidity could have been high(maybe?) Opinions are welcome! I love Alissa! | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 294 Registered: 6-2002 |
Same here...I always shift into 1st before reverse to prevent grinding | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2002 |
The solution to grinding in reverse in Ferraris or any other car is to hold the clutch in long enough for the gears in the tranny to stop rotating. Then no grinding. Dave | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2094 Registered: 9-2001 |
Interesting, I was told there was a reverse syncro on my 86 mondial by FOA | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328 Post Number: 166 Registered: 3-2001 |
There is no syncro for reverse on the 328 | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
New member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 48 Registered: 12-2002 |
I know its not a Ferrari, but my brothers Pontiac Grand Am has that same rat-tat-tat sound and our mechanic told us that its a little pressure valve that is equalizing the air pressure in the gas tank. | ||
| VS (Vs1)
Junior Member Username: Vs1 Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hey Omar - if it sounds like something hitting the side of the car - could it be the rubber flap that covers the fuel intake moving/flapping behind the louver when in motion? Is it torn anywhere? Not tucked up properly? The 1st gear before reverse trick is something I do in all my cars and it seems to work great. | ||
| Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
New member Username: Carl_rose Post Number: 44 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi again Omar, Regarding the tapping noise unfortunately can't offer any specifics to this car. Presuming non-mechanical origin, key here is to reproduce the sound (if possible) while car is static. Does it happen when you rev the engine? Any recent engine bay work (knocked something loose)? How about shaking the door? If you have access to a lift (may be able to "rent" one at local muffler or suspension shop) put the car up & wearing insulated gloves, systematically shake anything you can reach to reproduce. Look closely at the exhaust gaskets. Lift the rear wheels & rotate by hand. Patience & determination my friend; hang in there, you'll find it. Carl | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Junior Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 128 Registered: 8-2002 |
Porsche 911 trannys are the same way no syncro on reverse Porsche recommends holding the clutch in for 15 secs or so, to let the gears spool down then go into reverse with no grinding, Ferrari is the same procedure | ||
| Omar (O. H. B.) (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 74 Registered: 9-2002 |
Thanks for the help! I guess that is the nature of the trany...I will put it into 1st, then press down on the shifter and go into reverse...when I can drive again. ((It snowing finally we're gonna have a white christmas after all!!) About the second question, i hear that when driving on the highway but not when @ slow speeds. It sounds again like rat-tat-tat-tat..., comes from the rear driver side somewhere, and is kinda disheartening. I think its something hitting the side of the car over and over, any one else experiance this? | ||
| Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
New member Username: Carl_rose Post Number: 43 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi Omar, As a new owner (first F-car) I have noticed that 1.) Shifting into third momentarily (whithout letting clutch out) and 2.) Making sure you are pressing the clutch pedal is pressed all the way to the floor before attempting to engage Reverse. Flywheel will always rotate at engine speed (bolted to crankshaft). Haven't disassembled a 328 transaxle, but looking through the parts book Reverse appears to be unsynchronized (as is usual practice). Sorry no thoughts on your knocking noise. Hope this helps, Carl | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Advanced Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 3893 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think Rob is correct is about the wear condition in the synchros. I have a 308 which is very low mileage and has never had that problem. I have had the problem of hard shifting when cold but cured most of that with Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil. If you aren't using it I would give it a try. Other than that I think it is the nature the trans. | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 344 Registered: 5-2001 |
Omar, Put the car in 1st gear, then into reverse, and you will find the car will no longer "grind". Why, I don't know, but it works..... | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3058 Registered: 12-2000 |
Mine done this as well if I rev it in neutral before I put in reverse. I think it has to do with the reverse syncros. Some cars doen't even have them, but I think the 328 does, the ridges may just be worn down so the reverse driven gear may not be spining the same speed when the sliding hub comes over to engage the driven gears clutching teeth. When in neutral with the clutch pedal out the input shaft, counter shaft, and driven gears are all spining at the engine speed. Since the car isn't moving, the output shaft isn't moving. One thing that helps me is to always shift into 1st before reverse as that seems to sync everything up without grinding. For some reason reverse just doesn't sync up very well, maybe there isn't a syncro for reverse? I think in theory if you let idle for a little after reving up, then it shouldn't grind either. I know the flywheel is meant to keep the momentum up, but does it always spin at the engine speed? Or even after the engine has gone back to idle is the flywheel and input shaft spining at a higher speed until the momentum slows down? Also, I was using terminology for a typical transmission, I don't know jack about a 328 transaxle. I haven't taken that apart yet, heck, I haven't even got my Rx7 5 speed back together yet. | ||
| Omar (O. H. B.) (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 73 Registered: 9-2002 |
Engaging Reverse makes it sound as if its grinding through gears, (of course the clutch is down & the shift nob is down as much as it goes...it grinds when it goes in...though ther is no grind when going to first (guess is not the slave cylnder then). I hear a funny rat rat rat from the gas cover? maybe it sounds as if its loose or something...but when I stopped, it was fine. Help is appreciated! |