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V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328

Post Number: 76
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 5:51 pm:   

I think a Ferrari mechanic I used to deal with told me correct torque is 80 lbs, not 72. I know he tole me 80, but I never verified that anywhere.
Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
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Username: Me_k

Post Number: 347
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 11:42 am:   

I have seen left side wheels come off of 2 cars, both had never-seize on the threads. I wouldn't do that. You're not suposed to put anything on the threads, the plating should be enough. You need to replace them once the plating gets damaged. If you lube the threads, the bolt is also much tighter at the specified torque which could damage something. If you do feel the need to lube the bolts, be sure to keep the cone section clean, since that is the part that locks the bolt to the wheel.
Leonardo Soccolich (Lens)
Junior Member
Username: Lens

Post Number: 222
Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 7:10 am:   

If your wheel bolts are torqued to the correct spec. (72 ft/lbs, if I remember correctly), you?ll reduce the risk of damaging the chrome finish. I even put a little anti-seize paste on mine.
Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
Junior Member
Username: Carl_rose

Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:36 am:   

Thanks everyone!

Will probably either order Snap-On or Griot's + plastic bag trick & very slowly remove..

:-) Carl
V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328

Post Number: 73
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 12, 2003 - 9:31 am:   

well, what i've done over the years is take a plastic grocery bag, fold it over several times, hold it over the lug bolt, then fit the socket on top of that. Makes a decent 'liner', seems to have staved off nicking, chipping, etc. Hand loosen/tighten, etc. Haven't used hundreds of times(don't take wheels off all that often), but bolts seem to be holding up just fine.

Might also try paper, such as folded paper bag, etc.

Probably good to use a socket(such as Snap-On, or, if memory serves, a knock-off/rip-off Sears did a few years ago) that grabs bolt on flat part, not on the edges/corners, so as to not round off bolt.

Carl Rose, here's a Snap-On link for shallow 22mm socket, there's probably a deep socket on web somewhere(i found deep listed in an old Snap-On catalog here at the house), keyword for search is 'socket':

http://buy.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det1.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&qty=1&PartNo=TWM22&Price=13.85&store=snapon-store&ListPrice=13.85&Desc=Socket%2C+Metric%2C+Shallow%2C+22+mm%2C+6-Point&group_id=359&Item_id=3000
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 541
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 4:03 pm:   

Don't worry, the chinsy chrome plating on those lug nuts will evetualy give out no matter what you do. The chrome is bonded to the copper under neath (Triple Plated-Copper-Nickle-Chrome)copper is soft and eventualy smashes under the torque & heat a lug nut is subjected to.
Bruno (Originalsinner)
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Username: Originalsinner

Post Number: 871
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

I use the socket and breaker bar off and tourqe wrench on.Never a scratch problem.I wouldnt consider impact.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr

Post Number: 1304
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 2:19 pm:   

Carl -- I've got an OZAT 7/8" regular length:

http://www.ozat.co.il/ozat/asg/Item_207.html

and it's worked well for me on the 22mm F lugbolts so I think that deep Snap-On socket would be OK too.

(Got it from Griot's, but I don't know if they still offer it.)

Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 294
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 1:29 pm:   

Treat the bolt like a friend--squeese slowly to detorque the bolt. This minimizes the pressure on the face of the bolt. And use the right sized socket (22 mm). Last time I went down to Sears, they had a 22 mm in 5 different configurations (short and long shank) and (1/4, 3/8, and 1/2 drive).
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member
Username: Rexrcr

Post Number: 90
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   

I own the forged aluminum socket for impact use. It gets prety beat up and for professional use must be replaced anually.

They're made by Kokon in Japan. Can't remember where I purchaced it, though.
Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member
Username: Lawrence

Post Number: 458
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 12:04 pm:   

Go to Sears and buy a 22mm socket. Just remove lugs/bolts with a breaker bar, not an impact wrench. I've been changing the tires on my 328 for 15 years. No scratches.

There may be some soft lined sockets out there. There is one made for the 19mm size used on Porsches.
Carl Rose (Carl_rose)
Junior Member
Username: Carl_rose

Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:59 am:   

Hi everyone,

What is the best tool to remove lug nuts without marring edges or chipping chrome?
Searching the Snap-On catalog I found the following:
http://buy.snapon.com/catalog/pro_det.asp?P65=yes&qt=1&tool=all&INV_ONHAND=&FREIGHT=&qty=1&Item_id=53411&PartNo=AIS281&Price=29.00&ListPrice=29.00&FORMNAME=5&Desc=Socket%2C+Impact%2C+Lug+Nut%2C+Aluminum%2FSteel%2C+7%2F8%22&SUB_Cat_ID=1373196&SUB_Cat_NAME=Lug+Nut+Sockets+%28Aluminum%2FSteel%29&Cat_ID=1373051&Cat_NAME=Tire+And+Wheel&group_id=12518&group_NAME=Lug+Nut+Sockets+%28Aluminum%2FSteel%29&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog

But unfortunately they don't offer a 22mm (7/8" is closest). Any reccomendations?

Thanks,
:-) Carl

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