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Verell Boaen (Verell)
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Username: Verell
Post Number: 504
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 5:31 pm: | |
Michol,
Trust us, if the shop or their paint supplier uses computer color matching against your car's current color, It'll be a better match than if you ordered paint using the Rosso Chiaro paint number.
These day I don't believe any major auto body paint manufacturer makes factory pack paint. ie: paint pre-mixed to a specific color by the factory. The auto body paint supply shops & the larger auto body shops mix the paint on-site using a factory supplied 'recipe' of tints & a base paint.
10 years ago you could order 'factory pack' paint using your paint color code. That isn't the case today. The need to provide exact color matching paint on a few hours notice, combined with the enormous range of paint colors being sold on new cars drove the warehousing & stocking costs through the roof. The solution was computer controlled on-site color mixing. |
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 682
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 8:29 am: | |
>>And since we're talking body what is that black caulking used on the rear fender joint <<
It's a Latex Sealer of the same type used to seal windshields and other glass.
3M makes some. |
michael marchese (Bigdog)
Junior Member
Username: Bigdog
Post Number: 59
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 24, 2003 - 7:10 am: | |
Anyone know the paint code # for the Rosso Chiaro?? I'm just not so sure of the shop being able to match the colors since it's a "Ferrari" we're talking about, And since we're talking body what is that black caulking used on the rear fender joint (product name/manufacturer?) Thanks for all the help. |
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 679
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 8:49 pm: | |
I can't remember the Rosso Chiaro code # off the top of my head, it is different than the Rosso Corsa # though.
Like Verell mentioned though any larger BS with a matching system should have the old code numbers.
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michael marchese (Bigdog)
Junior Member
Username: Bigdog
Post Number: 57
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 5:07 pm: | |
JVR, Thanks for clearing that up for me, now that I know they're different what's the product Number for Rosso Chiaro Corsa since that what my car is painted and I'm going to "match" to??
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JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 677
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 4:08 pm: | |
No....Rosso Corsa & Rosso Chiaro are NOT the same shade of red.
Rosso Chiaro is much prettier imo. Corsa a little darker or deeper red.
When I restored The Bridgette Bardo Spyder California # 0937 I painted it in Rosso Chiaro,,,a truly stunning shade of red.
Rosso Chiaro changes to different hues as the light reflects at different angles.
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michael marchese (Bigdog)
Junior Member
Username: Bigdog
Post Number: 56
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
Thank's Verell I'll use your recommendations, and I am planning to have a body shop do All the work. I just want to be ABSOLUTELY SURE, and I want that assurance up front, but does anyone know if Glasurit 300/9 Rossa Corsa is the same as the Rosso Chiaro Corso. And I'm looking for a SOURCE for the paint
Any paint experts (Auto Body Shops) out there?? |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 498
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 2:43 pm: | |
Unfortunately red fades significantly in very few years. This means you could buy a paint that exactly matched the color your car was originally painted only to discover that the car is now a noticably different color.
You should take your car to a local paint & body supply store that has computer color matching. They have hand-held scanners that tell them how to mix a batch of paint that exactly matches your car's current color.
You'll also need to know whether the car's current paint is a '2-stage' (aka base/clear system) paint, or a 'single stage' (aka solid color) paint. The paint shop will be able to tell. A quick test is to take a white cloth & small amount of polishing compound & rub a small area of your car. If the cloth shows red then you've got a single stage paint.
Any high quality urethane paint by Dupont or PPG should be fine.
BTW, expect the shop to recommend you have a quart mixed up. It's very hard to get an exact color match when mixing up a pint, much less a half-pint.
Don't judge the color match by the color of the paint while it's in the can. As a paint dries different pigments can become slightly more visable resulting in a slight color shift.
The underlying sealer & primer colors are important too. They can change the shade of a paint slightly. If possible find out what color was used on your car. (Look for paint chips where the color layer has chipped away. Usually you can find a chipped spot on a door, hood, headlight cover, or rocker panel edge.)
If in doubt, or for insurance, after you've got your paint & sealer have a ~4x8 piece of metal primered & painted. Let it dry & lay it up against your car to see if the colors match. Better to find out if you have a miss-match before the paint's on the car. |
michael marchese (Bigdog)
Junior Member
Username: Bigdog
Post Number: 53
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 2:05 pm: | |
I would like to freshen an area on my car with the correct paint color however I'm not sure which red is correct(the paint sticker is gone). I have a small touch up bottle from the PO and the bottle is labeled "Rosso Chiaro Corsa". while searching the web I found "Glidden Salchi" "Rosso Chiaro" Part # 20 R 190 and 20 R 191. Now which red do I need any comments?? suggestions and should I go with Glidden?? |