| Author | Message | ||
| Peter Topman (Peter_topman)
New member Username: Peter_topman Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2002 |
BTW : Father FOOLDUCHI and Jumbo Red Vibrator are the same guy. it's his other ego acting out.... Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��.Five foot two with nuthin to do ��. LMAO ! | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1714 Registered: 4-2002 |
ALLEN TELL THAT TO JRV....THIS WAY WE WILL HEAR THE END OF IT... THANK YOU... | ||
| Allen Cook (Alcook62)
Junior Member Username: Alcook62 Post Number: 70 Registered: 3-2002 |
For those that are truly interested, the current issue of FORZA has a phone number listed for Eugenio on page 98 under the "Service & Parts" column. | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328 Post Number: 179 Registered: 3-2001 |
Sarduchi, your inputs are definitely in the "Off Topic" category. Maybe Rob should make a new topic called "Spiritual Q&A"? | ||
| Father Sarduchi (Father_sarduchi)
New member Username: Father_sarduchi Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2003 |
>>here's the new one : <<< Dear Sir, you too seem to have missed the important issues, the original gentleman asked for a phone number. The link you provided has no phone number or address listed. I have explained why the beloved eugenio has no phone number, no address or no business license. It's below, but to recap, it's For the Love. A business license could easily interfere with spreading the LOVE. Bless, Father Sarduchi | ||
| Peter Topman (Peter_topman)
New member Username: Peter_topman Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's the old web page. here's the new one : http://emelbon.tripod.com/eugeniosferrariservice.html | ||
| Roger Green (Rogerg)
New member Username: Rogerg Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2003 |
interesting banter.....anyone know where i could pickup an original 1990 348ts tool kit. I also want to have all the necessary workshop manuals as well. Best Regards | ||
| Father Sarduchi (Father_sarduchi)
New member Username: Father_sarduchi Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2003 |
*You are wasting my time - * Dear Sir, Please do not blame others for your mistakes. That is not the road to walk thru life. If you have wasted your own time be mature enough to look at yourself and find the answers you need within. Bless, Father Sarduchi | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328 Post Number: 176 Registered: 3-2001 |
By the way, the answer to the original question can be found here: http://hometown.aol.com/emelbon/myhomepage/business.html | ||
| Kurt Kjelgaard (Kurtk328)
Junior Member Username: Kurtk328 Post Number: 175 Registered: 3-2001 |
You are all acting like a bunch of kids. This section is for technical stuff - why don't you use the "Off Topic" for this kind of mud throwing?? You are wasting my time - I am looking through 54 posts to see if there is something usable in there and all I see is arguing and mobbing. Grow up!!!! | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1087 Registered: 12-2001 |
Boohoo, sniff, sniff, come on fatbilly be nice. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1581 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, It was not a slam. It was to point out that what is on the internet is not to be taken as the definitive word. Just because a shop is NOT on a website does not mean it is good. Blackhorse Motors is not on it and they are considered one of the best here. I welcomed your help and took your advice. I have contacted places you recommended to look at the car. I even contacted you (but I never heard back). If you took it as a slam I am sorry and please accept my apology. It was not intentional. Let's move on. We had made progress so let's continue it. I think both you and I know we could have really gotten into this again but did not. Matt Billy Bob, Well put and I see your point. Also, I did not mean to imply that you would have done Craig's clutch. He did mention that you would help him, not do it for him. | ||
| billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member Username: Fatbillybob Post Number: 160 Registered: 8-2002 |
Matt etal, Yes I offered to help Craig. However, I did not offer to �do� his clutch. He would have worked with me and there would be no charge. Eugenio is acting like a business. He takes your car, fixes it, returns it, and charges you. That is an attempt to be a professional. I may work in my garage like E but that is where the similarity ends. We are not the same. I would never take your car and fix it for you. But if you need a DIY help I am glad to help out and lend what expertise I have. I have helpped out many an owner. What you need to understand is if we do some stuff on your car in my garage it is owner beware. Good things can happen and bad things can happen. If you quasi-pro Eugenio accidently drops your 355 due a lift failure is this person insured for the $20k in sheetmetal damage? What do you think his home owners policy would say if he tried to collect from them? They would say you are running a business = no coverage. You are out of luck. Lets say E owes the IRS money and they come to seize his property. He runs a quasi business out of his house and does not have the ability to offer you a binding UCC1 form. Guess what the IRS gets your 355 and you get squat eventhough you hold title to the car! When you use a pro you expect a certain level of performance especially when things go wrong. Part of that performance is professional courtesy, legal obligation, and customer service. There are reasons pros cost more. These are just tow of them. JRV may be a bit gruff in his presentation but he has valid points. I do not understand why you people dump on him. I don�t see Tillack, FCA, FNA, FOC, F los Gatos, Eugenio, or any other Pro giving you guys answers to technical Q�s. I have seen JRV try to help FC�ers solve problems. I�ve heard Paul Newman try to sound like a pro. But I�m not too impressed with him. I laugh at his ball busting JRV and his attempt to do that to me several months ago. Ric R and Rexrcr are a basket of knowledge but the rest seem to have just bits and pieces to the point of mis information sometimes. Now that is not a �put down� on the FC community but you guys should not be trying to silence the one voice who can give you answers. We are all trying to find our asses with a flashlight here. OTOH, maybe some people on this list have monetary reasons to try to get JRV off this list. Maybe he is giving our too much information and it is hurting a few people�s wallets. All I can say is JRV keep posting. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 700 Registered: 11-2002 |
Matt, I can't believe that after I helped you out with your BB512 you'd turn around and stab me in the back like this. Very telling and Not a good sign. **JRV's shop is not listed on that site as well.....HUMMMMMM** check again ;-)! didn't know that site existed...thanks for the link. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1580 Registered: 8-2002 |
Gee, JRV's shop is not listed on that site as well.....HUMMMMMM | ||
| Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member Username: Trinacria Post Number: 89 Registered: 8-2002 |
DeMarzo Here is a link with lots of authorized an independent dealers, must be one near you: http://www.ferrariportal.com/search/index.cfm/fuseaction/first10Sites/Parent/5.htm | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1571 Registered: 8-2002 |
William, Really?!? But then again he also said he was Factory Trained. The guys at tillack said FCA, he may have been confused and wanted to say FOC. But I am FOC and I have never seen his name mentioned.....The story continues... Thanks for the clairification. | ||
| William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 132 Registered: 6-2001 |
Regarding the comment that Kevork Hazarian is the local FCA tech expert, please be advised that he is not a member of the Ferrari Club of America Technical Committee, of which I have been chairman for 22 years. Perhaps it was FOC instead. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1080 Registered: 12-2001 |
JRV = Jumbo Rectal Vibrator | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1549 Registered: 8-2002 |
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| Father Sarduchi (Father_sarduchi)
New member Username: Father_sarduchi Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2003 |
>>>who is also the local FCA tech expert was put out of business in November for shotty work and complaints<<< Dear Matt, Thank you for pointing out why it's a bad idea to have a published phone number, address and business license. It allows those who don't share the LOVE a venue for complaints. If that poor gentleman had only been underground and stealth he could still be spreading Love throughout the Ferrari world. It shows how following mans law can get in the way of spreading the LOVE. By being a Legal Business his customers had a venue for recourse and took action to prevent the spreading of the LOVE. Bless, Father Sarduchi | ||
| Father Sarduchi (Father_sarduchi)
New member Username: Father_sarduchi Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2003 |
>>>If people are impressed by his low prices anyone could do that if they have no business phone, have home garage, no lift , no insurance and no staff.<< My Dear Bretheren, As I tried to explain Love is the reason eugenio has given up the above, it's for the Love and the orphans and abused women that our beloved eugenio supports with his donations. By keeping the overhead low (non-existant)this leaves more to donate to the orphanage. One simply needs look in the big book our Holy Bible to find Love and the passage of Man's Law and Gods Law. Beloved eugenio follows only Gods Law to cut down on expenses. We all know how much cash following Mans Law can drain from one, leaving far less to donate to orpanages and abused womes shelters. Yes this is about the Love and trying to create Peace on Earth and Cheap Tune-Ups for Men.. Is there anything more noble and filled with Love than beating the system. Please stop this fighting about our beloved eugenio so as not to taint the LOVE! Let's all hold hands in prayer and a moment of silence for the LOVE! Bless you all my children and remember it's all about the LOVE. Love is what's important. The money that eugenio charges is really a simple donation to allow the further spreading of the LOVE. Bless, Father Sarduchi | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1543 Registered: 8-2002 |
On a side note. I had heard yesterday at Tillack's that Kevork Hazarian - Los Angeles Repair Tech, who is also the local FCA tech expert was put out of business in November for shotty work and complaints. Kevork has placed adds in Forza and Cavallino. Apples and Oranges? or Wine and Sour grapes? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1542 Registered: 8-2002 |
Billy Bob, I respect your opinion and hold you in high regards. I agree with some of your points. Eugenio may be a home mechanic but does that make him less qualified to work on a car? He does have a lift and the tools necessary to work on the v-8 lines of the f-cars. We all have gaps in our knowledge and we strive to fill them in. No one is impressed by a shop being filled untim July. He works on one car at a time. It can take him 3-4 weeks for a major service. Not because of lack of knowlege but because he works on nights and weekends. I took Craig (348ts) to tillack yesterday regarding his clutch. He paid top dollar to get it done. He mentioned that you would have helped him and it would have taken 4 hours. I see no difference between you and Eugenio doing the same thing. JRV is to a Ferrari Service shop as Eugenio is to you. Apples and Oranges. If your friend down the street worked on Ferrari's at a shop for a living, would you take your car to him and pay full price or hit him up on the weekend and pay him with some beer and good laughs? Sure there is some risk, But I have yet to hear one bad thing said about him and his work. Matt | ||
| billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member Username: Fatbillybob Post Number: 157 Registered: 8-2002 |
Matt etal, I know you guys don't like JRV but he may be doing FC people a favor by exposing the Eugenio issue. I have talked to Eugenio about a couple F issues but do not use him myself. I know other satified F people who like him. Personally I find he has gaps in his knowledge and I am only a home mechanic. JRV may be going about ti the wrong way but if Eugenio is not a BAR licensed mechanic he is no better than your next door neighbor working on your car. Lots of guys here think their ferrari as their prized garage queen so why would you take legal chances having a no name work on your car? If people are impressed by his low prices anyone could do that if they have no business phone, have home garage, no lift , no insurance and no staff. If people are impressed by his being booked until July , is that because he is slow and has a day job weekly as an engineer? Are you impressed by his 70 clients? Does anyone remember what sample size means in statistics? Did his website list any BAR license besides being A/C 609 certified? After talking to him there is no doubt he is skilled and loves Ferraris but there are other considerations. Life is about managing risk. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1539 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, Let it go. He does not compete with you and people here trust him. I actually thought you had progressed by helping out but as Jean-Louie said, Everytime this subject comes up you act like an little kid. BTW, Why don't you e-mail everyone here like you did Bruce asking us not to pick on you? I believe you said, leave me along and I'll leave you alone? Please, Bruce could careless about you or anything you say. | ||
| billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member Username: Fatbillybob Post Number: 156 Registered: 8-2002 |
I don't care if E is a priest. If he has no BAR license he can't give you a UCC1 when you drop your car off. You have no legal protections. Are you guys nuts? Services that are free and under the wire are worth exactly what you pay for them. Does anyone here know what happens when a debt collector comes into a shop and there is no UCC? Owners beware! | ||
| Father Sarduchi (Father_sarduchi)
New member Username: Father_sarduchi Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2003 |
Dear JRV, I have been asked to come here to explain a few things about little eugenio. I'm sure you have the wrong impression on certian things. There is a very simple explanation for everything. First may I tell you a little about our beloved eugenio. I remember what a quiet little boy he was when I babtised him. For good measure he was babtised twice in fact. And growing up he was a very happy but quiet child, until the day (I was there) he saw her weeping (The Virgin Mary), yes it was like a miracle, tears ran down her cheeks. Then shespoke to him, and told him that he should grow up loving mankind and helping his fellows in any way possible, yes she relayed to him that he should devote his life to helping others. At one point he considered the Preisthood, but in a vision it came to hime that he could spread joy and love in the world by working on Ferraris. He told me of this vision many years ago. From that day forward he has loved Ferraris more than life tself. He is so devoted in fact that he has given up other wordly matters likes phones, bank accounts, taxes. So you see, this is why no one can call him, and should only pay in cash, no bills larger than twenties, non-sequential. So you seeas I told you in the beggining there is a very simple explanation. These others, his fan club, please excuse them, they know how devoted is eugenio and how deep his love and were just trying to help him. He meets his devoted followers at a Denny's because it is right next door to the Church and close to the orphanage where he donates money. So you see, devotion and love such as eugenio feels is rare in this world . Thank You for listening to the story of our beloved eugenio. Bless, Father Sarduchi | ||
| Craig (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 35 Registered: 9-2002 |
if i had known my clutch work wasnt under warranty i would have parked the car and waited 2 months for my appointment with Eugenio, i question any ones opinion who says Eugenio isnt the best around, Eugenio doent think just because you drive a ferrari your rich and its ok to stick it to you | ||
| Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Junior Member Username: Easy_rider Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2002 |
Surely JRV I won't because 1. If someone is interested in service they can contact one of the So Cal members and we will be happy to share his phone number, but not on a public forum, and 2. I did a simple search on the web 30 minutes ago and was able to find his number so it is available publicly. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 695 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ron, Likewise all your posts are just super. Since you've met the man in person and can vouch for his stellar abilities, surely you have his phone # and will share it here with the rest of the fans. TIA | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1659 Registered: 4-2002 |
RON YOUR POST WAS DONE PROFESSIONALLY, BUT YOU WERE TOO NICE.. HI J SCOTT... | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 287 Registered: 1-2002 |
Ron: Gracious and well put! | ||
| Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Junior Member Username: Easy_rider Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2002 |
JRV I appreciate your comments on almost all of the threads and posts where you are sharing information, but I am tired of your constant bashing of Eugenio. He is one of the finest and most pleasant individuals I have ever met. His interest is solely in providing a service to a select few individuals for a select few cars at what he (and I) believe to be a reasonable price. His workmanship is superb and his workshop spotless and completely orderly. You and he do not compete for service work and he never challenges you or your comments. Do us all a big favor and rise above whatever eats you about him. That will let us all continue to appreciate your thoughtful and helpful comments. I know I appreciate them. Ron | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 452 Registered: 5-2001 |
I just looked at Eugenio's website and he says he is booked out until July 2003 and thus, not accepting new customers at this time.... No phone listed. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 191 Registered: 2-2002 |
Hate to say it but what a dink | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 694 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hey ...Thanks for all the feedback guys...anyone find that mystery phone # yet???? | ||
| Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Junior Member Username: Jlm348 Post Number: 81 Registered: 11-2002 |
JRV You seem to be so helpfull to people on this F-chat board and then every time this Eugenio issue comes up you make an *ss of yourself. You are the only person on this entire board with all of its posts who has ever had anything negative to say about Eugenio. Mind you this is an individual of which whom you have never met. Every time you say something negative it just looks worse on you, you are not helping anyone with your posts regarding this matter. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1559 Registered: 8-2002 |
i just don't understand... If everyone in the world was more like me, the world would be a much better place... Ok, maybe a little overweight, but still, it'd be a better place...  | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1558 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, i tagged Lemus for this, the other day: You can't throw an off topic flag on the field, when the original thread post is relevant to the forum in which is resiDES- sorry, but i'm gonna need your badge and flags while i review this. As far as this whole "argument" is concerned, it seems kinda silly... i have to agree with Pat, that if this guy isn't taking money out of your pocket, this whole thing should be dropped... & as tempting as it is, i won't dare take a shot at making up my own acronym for "JRV", 'cause, well... DES has an infinte number of variations, as well... Really, though, let's just cut the ••••, i thought this whole thing ended, already... | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 345 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jello Rebounding Victim | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 190 Registered: 2-2002 |
Would you like to answer the questions JRV? | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 344 Registered: 6-2002 |
Just Requires Vomitting | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 693 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well I don't see DES, so guys I'm throwin the "off topic" flag on all why JRV BS questions. BTW: I'm the only one to answer the original posters question, you guys sure aren't very helpful. All this crap and only one answer does make one wonder where E himself is though?? | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 343 Registered: 6-2002 |
Just Registered for Vasectomy | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Junior Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 188 Registered: 2-2002 |
JRV why are you so bent out of shape about this guy? He does not compete for you business does he? Does he take any money out of your pocket? If the guy just likes to work on F-cars and such just because he likes to what's the hassle? | ||
| Todd Gieger (Todd328gts)
Member Username: Todd328gts Post Number: 342 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jerk Rod Vehemently | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 691 Registered: 11-2002 |
Bruce, glad ya finally realized one can't get everything in life from "Teet Milk". Now that you've taken the move to ween yourself, a tip for ya....it's ok to ask for help figuering out how to use a keyboard! All those symbols won't be so strange looking once you know what they mean. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1656 Registered: 4-2002 |
JRV.... JERKOFF RIGHT VULVA... O, JRV, BTW, YEA I WORKED FOR MY DADDY, BUT THEN I WENT ON MY OWN, GOT A NEW BUSINESS STARTED,AND DOING FINE..GO SUCK SOME GAS FUMES IN YOUR "WHOREHOUSE" OF A SHOP.... | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
New member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2002 |
jrv = JUICY RED VAGINA | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 688 Registered: 11-2002 |
Need some phone #'s and address's of Good Tutors or Counselours? I'm sure it's ok to post those on the internet where anyone, you or the authorities could see them. Didn't I read you work for your daddy? Well ask him to send you to keyboard school and counseling as part of the 'spoon feeding' package! | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1532 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, Let it go. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1531 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bruce, He's baiting you. Just drop it. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1654 Registered: 4-2002 |
HEY JRV...EVER FINISH SCHOOL AND LEARN HOW TO SPELL?? "CONSUELING" GET A GOOD EDUMATION FIRST BEFORE YOU USE A KEYBOARD.... | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 687 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hey Bruce, Ever thought about taking lessons to learn how to use a keyboard? or if it's an emotional issue follow solid advice and seek consueling. | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 1650 Registered: 4-2002 |
JRV ,,,, JSCOTT DOESNT HAVE TO PROVE SHI#[email protected] ARE YOU, HIS FATHER?? THE GUY EXISTS, PEOPLE KNOW HIM AND HIS SHOP, SO BE IT.......GROW UP...... | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 285 Registered: 1-2002 |
You aren't going to bait me. See ya! | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1528 Registered: 8-2002 |
Dave, I am going to get a few opinions before I get the valves replaced. It will be going to Enzo's as well. Both places wanted to see the car before quoting me a price. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 680 Registered: 11-2002 |
jscott, FYI I'm not starting anything up again!! you got a problem get counseling, you feel the need to argue take it off topic! you have proof of a business license # address and phone number post it!!!!!!!! | ||
| j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott Post Number: 284 Registered: 1-2002 |
email him. He always gets back quickly. Don't start up again JRV!!!! | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
New member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 33 Registered: 8-2002 |
Matt, What happen with Enzos. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1523 Registered: 8-2002 |
(shaking my head) JRV, Not again.... BTW - Monaco Motors is going to take the 512 in. He is going to fit it in. I need to call him again to arange a time. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 678 Registered: 11-2002 |
We went over this already: NO PHONE NUMBER ON THE INTERNET OR ANYWHERE THE AUTHORITIES MIGHT SEE IT!!! Someone will email you privately from an anonymous addy with the pager # and the address of the Denny's where to meet. | ||
| DeMarzo (Demarzo)
New member Username: Demarzo Post Number: 13 Registered: 12-2002 |
Does anyone have Eugenio's phone numbera and address. I need to setup service in SCal and it's not on his web site. Help, please |