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Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member
Username: Noelrp
Post Number: 161
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 5:05 pm: | |
In San Francisco, the penalty for no front license plate is now $225!! And it is not a "fix-it" either. Is that outrageous or what.
Needless to say I do not park my Ferrari on the street. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 709
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:12 am: | |
Texas requires front plates also (although like Mr. Glickenhaus mentions exceptions do exist) so when one finally does get pulled over the best reply is, "your kidding officer, it must have fallen off or was stolen, thanks for letting me know".
;-) |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Junior Member
Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 90
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 11:03 am: | |
In Ca. as Ron had mentioned, You can get a tocket from a meter maid, if they are having a bad day.
I was pulled over on Sunset Blvd, for not having a front plate. Officer gave me a fix it ticket. It Ca. yu can opt not to fix it, but pay a penalty, I think that is was about a $60 penalty. The court clerk mentioned that the penalty goes up with the amount of citations that you receive. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 386
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 9:46 am: | |
There is only one legal way to not have a front plate in NYS. If you own a car that is over 25 years old and was manufactured in a year that NYS only required a rear plate, and you can find a REAL NYS plate of that vintage and you apply to DMV, and they find that that # is not being used today you can use a "YOM" (Year of Manufacture) rear plate on you vehicle for an extra yearly fee.
My Duesenberg uses 1931 NYS plates legally. IN 1931 they required front plates so my car uses 2.
I believe that in 1964 NYS only required a rear plate but in 1967 they required 2.
The problem is it does give them a reason to stop you and even if all they want to do is talk that gets old and if they want to they can impound your car on the spot which is rarely a pleasant experience. |
Steve (Steve)
Member
Username: Steve
Post Number: 289
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 9:03 am: | |
Yea Barney you're right. My brother in law is a retired trooper and a Corvette collector. There is a height thing in NY and also the plastic covers over the plates but he said that if the plate is there they usually don't bother you.I 1st mounted the plate off of the bumper in the front of the grill but didn't want to block the air flow so moved it below. Worked out OK. |
billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member
Username: Fatbillybob
Post Number: 162
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, January 26, 2003 - 12:00 am: | |
If you are doing correct heel toe down shift and blip of throttle as needed then you may shim the brake or acelerator pedal to get the heights right for your drive style. After all the Al pedals are for racing right not for looks? |
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member
Username: Trinacria
Post Number: 91
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 8:49 pm: | |
Steve
Thanks, it doesn't look bad at all on your car! Actually looks a little "hidden", I might try that. A few years back I was driving a Corvette and got pulled over. Want to hear what my ticket was - front license plate not mounted high enough. YEP , There is an actually regulation in NY that says your plate must be between 12" and 42" from the ground. Mine was to low and the judge fined me after I went in on a not guilty plea. I asked a police friend of mine who said he hed never heard of such a ridiculous thing. So he looked it up and showed it to me. He claims he would never give someone a ticket for that. The point - they can pretty much find something.... if they want too. |
Steve (Steve)
Member
Username: Steve
Post Number: 287
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 8:29 pm: | |
Barney it's not a problem mounting the front plate in NY. See my file with the pic in it. Mine is mounted below the grill and tilted back. It is also above the front of the car.Looks neat and does not create a problem with the SP's . Works for me , I don't see the big deal here with a front plate. As you are most likely aware we are targets anyway . 80 mph with a front plate is usually acceptable but without it you might get stopped. Minimize the risk here.
As for the pedals make sure they are for Ferrari. They should be easy to fit up. |
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Junior Member
Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 63
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 8:08 pm: | |
I got a parking ticket a few weeks ago in Los Angeles (not on the Ferrari) and then got a second ticket because I did not have a front plate. Cost me an extra $25 but they did not make me put the plate on. |
V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328
Post Number: 89
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 4:57 pm: | |
In Texas, the plate in the window isn't legal(according to my call to DMV several yrs ago). To amplify on Neal's comment, you can always stuff/hide the plate in the trunk, and if cop doesn't buy Neal's story, add/tell cop the plate's in the rear, if he'd like to see it. If cop's borderline on ticket, *might* just simmer him down a bit & give him a look an an Fcar engine, cause him to reconsider 'writing you up', etc.
Btw, my experience is that no one ever seems to notice that the front plate's missing, but maybe i've just been lucky(haven't been stopped by cops much, either, but if they'd noticed missing plate, they mighta stopped me just for that). |
neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member
Username: 95spiderneal
Post Number: 72
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 4:48 pm: | |
just leave ugly front plate off and if nec tell cop "bracket was just stolen and part backordered from italy" always works |
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member
Username: Trinacria
Post Number: 86
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 4:04 pm: | |
I was thinking that DMV might allow the European style type but there is nothing about this on the NYSDMV website. I'll keep looking. Maybe it would attract to much attention anyway. Even if it was legal the police might not know it. |
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member
Username: Trinacria
Post Number: 85
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 4:01 pm: | |
Jim and James, thank you very much. Jim, I didn't realize the aluminum will bend. I will try it tonight. |
Randall Booth (Randall)
New member
Username: Randall
Post Number: 24
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
I've heard in some states that you can put the plate in the windshield. I think if you talk to (or email)the Department of motor vehicles (or licensing) they should know about altered plates. Let us know what you find out. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 385
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 3:41 pm: | |
Barney
No front plate or any plate not issued by DMV is not legal in NY and it gives them probable cause to pull you over.
On my 308 I mounted my front plate on the right side and it didn't look too bad. |
Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
New member
Username: Jimbo
Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 3:08 pm: | |
Barney:
I can't help you with the plate issue, but I kinda doubt it would be legal. All the aluminum "challenge" pedals have to be drilled.
Take off the clutch and brake rubber pads, position the aluminum pad on top and hold in place with two vice-grips (top and bottom). It will bend to fit the steel. Select two appropriate holes for the bolts and mark them (make sure there is clearance behind for the nuts). Drill a small pilot hole, then one just slightly larger than the bolts. A right angle drill helps immensely here. The accelerator pedal takes 3 bolts. Nothing gets removed here. Just space the bolts out evenly. As they are tightened, the aluminum will conform to the steel pedals. No spacers, etc. I just did this earlier this month on my 512TR. It took me 30 min and I didn't even hurt myself. The steel is very hard. A sharp cobalt drill makes life easier, as does the pilot hole thing. Also a little cutting oil will make the drill bits a lot happier. I put a towel underneath to catch the metal particles. I can't remember the exact sizes of the drills but I have it in my log somewhere along with the sizes of the allen wrench and the nut (10mm, I think) and I can get them if you need. Good luck. ...Jim |
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member
Username: Trinacria
Post Number: 83
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 2:51 pm: | |
Two questions. First, Does anyone make a European style license plate (long type that fits in the license plate spot) that is legal? Can I make one up with the right number and "New York" on it, that is legal? Couldn't find anything in the archives about this.
Second, I know a lot of you put the drilled alumininum pedals on the brake, clutch, and accelerator. I hope I don't sound like an idiot here, but all of them have to be drilled and screwed into place right? Does the accelerator pedal itself have to come off? The drilled aluminum covers do not match the exact curve on the pedals. Is this OK? Should there be anything sandwiched between the aluminum and the pedal? etc etc
Thanks
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