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Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
New member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 16
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 3:11 pm: | |
Peter,
Congratulations on your new arrival! Ken Lewis at:
http://www.ferrariliterature.com/index.html
is an excellent source for original manuals for your QV.
I agree with Verell regarding computer matching of your car's Rosso Corsa color for preparing touch-up paint, and belts/tensioners servicing.
Barry
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peter james moran (Pjm)
New member
Username: Pjm
Post Number: 3
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 2:58 pm: | |
Thanks for all the info! Keep it coming :-) |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Junior Member
Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 64
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 9:53 pm: | |
IMO there are a lot of scare stories about timing belts. I bought a 85 QV in 99 with 31K on it, still had original belts. Have seen others liike this. As has been said previously, sitting for long periods is the worst thing for rubber parts, belts, including timing belts. Also, high polution areas will break down the rubber quicker as well. You will be due for a 15K service in 3K anyway, I would do the belts then if you want to sleep better.
Dave |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Junior Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 66
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 9:29 pm: | |
re: "Where to get the correct, good quality touch-up paint?"
Russo Corsa is known for fading/changing color as it ages, so off-the-shelf touch-up paint often no longer blends in. Give your car a good polish/wax job to get old pigment off & take it to a Auto Body Supply store & have them computer match your car's color in the smallest quantity they'll sell you. Some will do a 1/2 pint, others won't do less than a pint...
You may get lucky & their computer will spit out a match to a GM, FORD, etc. color & you really can find a touch up paint that blends in.
re: "s there a way to inspect the belts for condition?"
Unfortunately, there isn't. Just getting the cam covers off so you can see the belts is about 30% of the labor in a belt change. Putting them back on another 30%, and changing the belt & (most likely) cam seals is the other 40%.
IMHO, If the car has aquired 12K miles since '95, and they're pretty well spaced over the 7 years, then the car isn't a garage queen, & the odds are in your favor of the belts holding up until the fall.
RATIONALE:
Like tires, running/flexing should tend to keep the belt flexible & distribute many small cracks around the belt. Tires are the same way. (This will probably draw some flack, as there are definitely other opinions. You'll have to make the final call yourself.)
However, if the car had the mileage put on it in a couple of 1-year periods with lots of sitting in between, then I wouldn't take the risk. Sitting for extended periods will let the rubber harden into shape and it will be much more likely to develop a serious crack that will fail abruptly.
If you don't know the history, better err on the side of caution... |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Junior Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 65
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 9:08 pm: | |
Peter,
Here's a well-known Private(wink) document collection web site that has high-resolution .PDF files of 308 Users, Parts, & Service manuals:
http://ferrari.jenkins.org/books/
It should hold you for quite a while.
Note: It has a 308 QV manual (really a QV supplement to the 308 GT4 manual that's also there.
Caveat: Unlike US factory service manuals, Ferrari manuals are written assuming that the reader is already a factory trained mechanic. So, there's very little 'how to' or tutorial content, mostly just specs & drawings. Even these are a tad sketchy. Often a parts manual is the best reference for how things go together...
Under the skin, a 308 is essentially a 308GT4, & the GT4 manual has some of the better service details. Also, the 328 tech specs... have a lot of 308 info.
BTW,one scoundrel(wink)actually printed some of these on 11"x14" paper. NiceNEasy to read in the garage.
You can buy CDs from
www.superformance.co.uk
The prices are:
MANUALS
308 parts manual GT4 on CD (Each) 3601F �10.00 308 workshop manual on CD (Each) 3613F �10.00
BTW, �10.00 ~= $14.10.
I just saw several 308 manuals on eBAY, but they tend to go for $75-$150 & lots of them are really photocopies of manuals.
Here's a some useful web sites:
www.ferrarilist.com
On-line how-to descriptions:
http://www.ferrariclub.com/
(Click on Ferrari FAQ & scroll down)
http://www.expensivecar.com/
(click on the word Ferrari to the left of the picture).
It has some great descriptions of many common service tasks that you'll find useful.
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Kelly J. Vince (Tifosi1)
Junior Member
Username: Tifosi1
Post Number: 192
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 8:10 pm: | |
http://www.expensivecar.com/timing.htm
Here 's how to do the 30k service. Don't wait your gambling with $18 to $20,000 rebuild.
e-bay has the manula from time to time, just look for them.
Congrats,
kelly |
peter james moran (Pjm)
New member
Username: Pjm
Post Number: 2
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 7:19 pm: | |
Hi Everyone!
I brought home my first Ferrari A very clean (I think) 308 QV with 48K miles in russo corsa (SP?). Can be seen here.
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/just4pjm/lst?.dir=/4RE
First, It came with no manuals. Where is the best place (price$) to order books. And in the mean time can anybody in the SF BAy area let me look over their's? Fax or borrow?
Where to get the correct, good quality touch-up paint?
Lastly, I'm aware of the 30K service, what I was not aware was every 5 years! The car had it's belts and tensioners done in late 95' 12K miles ago. Is there a way to inspect the belts for condition? I was planning on doing the 30K service this Fall after I put 6K miles ont it.
Thanks,
New-Bee Peter
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