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philip (Fanatic1)
New member
Username: Fanatic1
Post Number: 12
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 1:51 pm: | |
I would also love to find a readily accessable after market oil filter for a 348!! Peter, the baldwin you're referring to....is that just for the 308....also, where some of you buying a Ferrari OEM filter for $$8.00...For me it's not just a matter of money, but a matter of accessability....my dealer wants 53.00 for an oil filter and the dealer is 1.5 hours away!! Of course I know I could ship it, but I would like the option of just going to an autoparts store and picking up a filter whenever I wanted to...I definately agree that performance of the filter is paramount, but I think there'd have to be a Fram or something else out there that would work just perfectly..... |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2089
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 2:26 pm: | |
Peter,
I don't know as well. I called Baldwin and they are checking for me. |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter
Post Number: 2485
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 2:21 pm: | |
I've heard no reply to my question:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/205363.html?1045001939 |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter
Post Number: 2484
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 2:10 pm: | |
Ken, a Baldwin alternative to your Fram PH 2870A is:
Baldwin B178 (from their website catalogue:
Descriptions : Microlite Full-Flow Lube Spin-on
Contains : Anti-Drainback Valve 30 PSI By-Pass Valve
Fits : Chrysler, Volkswagen Automotive
Replaces : Chrysler J3232126; Volkswagen 56115561G
Thread : 3/4-16
O.D. : 3 (76.2)
Length : 5 1/8 (130.2)
I.Gskt : G449-B
Related to : B228 (Short Version) )
I use Baldwins on both my daily driver (fuel/oil/air) and the Ferrari (oil/air). They are a high-quality-construction filter. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2076
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 8:24 am: | |
Justin,
It is not a matter of cost. Making statements like that does not help either. Has Tom pointed out, Ferrari recommends Fram for most of it's cars from the 1960's up to the 1988 328.
Knowing that Fram has poor quality, that leaves three left.
UFI has had the same problems (ferrari oem) that fram has.
Purolator is crap
Which leaves Balwins. Cheaper then all, better then all.
Just because it costs more does not mean it is better. I could careless if the filter is $10 or $40. It comes to Quality, not Quanity.
"If I went and bought a Ferrari and saw a after market filter on the engine, I would think the owner did not want to pay the price of a ferrari original"
I think everyone here would agree that that statment is way off base.
Taking issue with cost puts those comments right in line with Fram's quality. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 2731
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 7:34 am: | |
Justin
Fram is a brand recommended by Ferrari for many of its cars. Just because the manufacture suggests it does not mean it is the only option - it prob means they have a sponsorship deal |
Justin Randall Kenyon (Kenyon)
Junior Member
Username: Kenyon
Post Number: 89
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 7:22 am: | |
The quality of the Ferrari original oil filter must be the best for that car. Why use a after market filter that Ferrari do not use, must not be as good. The Ferrari filters are cheap and good quality and most of all recommended by Ferrari. If I went and bought a Ferrari and saw a after market filter on the engine, I would think the owner did not want to pay the price of a ferrari original, SO what else has he skimped on if he cannot not afford a �8.00 Ferrari original filter.
The Fram filters are !!!!!...no good. I have seen them break up on high performance engines. |
Justin Randall Kenyon (Kenyon)
Junior Member
Username: Kenyon
Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 7:21 am: | |
The quality of the Ferrari original oil filter must be the best for that car. Why use a after market filter that Ferrari do not use, must not be as good. The Ferrari filters are cheap and good quality and most of all recommended by Ferrari. If I went and bought a Ferrari and saw a after market filter on the engine, I would think the owner did not want to pay the price of a ferrari original, SO what else has he skimped on if he cannot not afford a �8.00 Ferrari original filter.
The Fram filters a !!!!!... I have seen them break up on high performance engines. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2044
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 8:40 pm: | |
Ken,
I will do some research and give you some alternates. If you do a search on Fram oil filters, there is a threat about the build quality |
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn
Post Number: 721
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 8:34 pm: | |
I use a Fram PH 2870A oil filter. It's mounted upside down. The engine has a 4 liter wet sump for a 1.6 liter displacement (Lotus Twin Cam). |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2014
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 7:00 pm: | |
I do not know about Lotus filters. There have been problems with the fram's not holding the oil inverted and in some cases exploding. What model filter are you using? |
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn
Post Number: 719
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 6:51 pm: | |
Matt, I use Fram in my Lotus. What SHOULD I be using? I'm neurotic about oil changes and do it every 3 months regardless (keeps my 30 year old car from feeling her age), so if there's a better filter, I'd like to know. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2004
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 6:45 pm: | |
Ken,
It's a matter of built quality. There have been some issues with Fram's
Justin,
It's not about the money. It's about better build quality |
Justin Randall Kenyon (Kenyon)
Junior Member
Username: Kenyon
Post Number: 85
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:45 am: | |
The original Ferrari Oil Filters are cheap at �8-00 pounds sterling anyway. Why save a few pence on a none original ??? |
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn
Post Number: 712
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 8:41 pm: | |
Off the shelf oil filters have standpipes if you get the right brand. My question remains: what's the big deal with Ferrari oil filters? Just get one that fits. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1957
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:00 am: | |
They have standpipes which retain oil due to it's inverted position. |
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn
Post Number: 711
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:39 am: | |
Excuse my ignorance, but why wouldn't any filter that fits work? Do Ferraris have too high a flow volume for an off the shelf filter? |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 225
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:28 am: | |
Funny, I posted on this topic last year.
Out of desperation I admit to using a NAPA filter, but only 'cause I had to go racing. I switched it out ASAP. IMO, it's not worth the risk if the filter manufacturer does not endorse the Ferrari application.
If you want to gamble, measure the thread pitch, diameter, and length, the diameter and thickness of the gasket or o-ring, and take this information to a friendly auto supply store like NAPA. You must find a counterman willing to work for you, not just look up the application and say, "Sorry, not in the computer (drool, sniff)."
He's got to look up the manufacturer's specifications, which takes time and intelligence. You will find the same filter I used back in '94 when there was a national backorder. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 8:12 am: | |
I did a search on the topic and found nothing. Does anyone know who makes a aftermarket filter like Fram or another company?
Thanks |