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Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 132 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 2:52 pm: | |
Andreas, Thanks for chiming in. My apologies as my instructions refer to a '85 308, not the earlier 'glass version. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 458 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:47 pm: | |
I think Tommy's question was how to get to the emblems? True, there is a lot of carpet and fiberglass back there. I once tried to take them off, but eventually gave up. Some of the screws and holes for them look like they were 'randomly' put in place and if you don't get the exact screw at the precise angle back in the same place, your SOOL. |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 131 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:37 pm: | |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove,m The "quattrovalvole" emblem is taped on while the 308 emblem employs two screws as i recall (same as the rear prancing horse). As for the chrome "Ferrari" emblem, it is held on by a pressure folk-like piece (one per pin, 2 pins total). Will be eliminating the pin and have it threaded to accept screws. Hope this helps. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 130 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 12:02 pm: | |
Andreas, Yes, they have been sold out for over a year and if i find some they want to know where. The search continues... Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 457 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:40 am: | |
Steven, did you try this place for a 308 sign: http://www.kitcaraccessories.com/ferrari.html
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Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 495 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:10 am: | |
How do you access these things from the trunk. Mine has some sort of fiberglass cover under the trunk material. How does it come off? |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell
Post Number: 553 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 11:04 am: | |
'82 Euro 308 GTS QV: Both the 308 & the Quattrovalvole emblems are black w/white center lines like the new one you got from Ferrari.uk. I believe my car is essentially all original, except for being resprayed at some point. I can't prove this, but lots of little things make me think so. It had 22,000 mi on it when I bought it a few years ago. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 498 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 11:36 pm: | |
I would agree that based on the photo, that emblem appears to be faded and worn to the color is now. Black is what it originally was. Here's an interesting one; the 328's have all kinds of different finishes on the rear badges, black/white, gold/white and chrome/white, and sometimes combinations of them. I think most of the chrome or silver ones are just the faded black ones, but the gold ones are strange. I had a black 328 badge, but a gold GTS badge, totally original, in fact, found two other people with the same on their cars. Went ahead and changed it, as I didn't like the look, and got a black GTS badge. I've also noticed the differing amount of seperation between the 328 and GTS badges on cars. Some a resting against each other, other are up to an inch apart. Guess it is just another one of those things about a "hand finished" car. :-) Use whatever badge is availabe that day, and just slap it on and call it "good". |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 224 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
You're right, I was wrong. I just looked at the factory brochure for the 308QV US model. Both the "308" and the "quattrovalvole" were originally black with white inset. Now I have to go get me a new one (or repaint my old one), darn it! My "308" is still black and white with no wear, which is why I presumed that the "quattrovalvole" script must have always been the metal color. I see SodaCom's script is $100... how much was one from Superformance.uk?
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Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
Junior Member Username: Euro308guy
Post Number: 222 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:07 pm: | |
Just looked in my neighbors' "Original Ferrari V-8" book. It shows the black background as Steve posted earlier. It does not show the silver emblem on the 308 as is. hmmmm |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 129 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 6:38 pm: | |
Mike, Many thanks. Hopefully someone with a 1985 EURO can help. Yes the car was DOT/EPA converted, yet i highly doubt they changed rear emblems. PAGING ALL 1985 EURO OWNERS... PLEASE HELP! Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Junior Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 219 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 5:30 pm: | |
I am sure my US 84 QV quatrovalvole script was NEVER black. It looks like your bottom one. |
Phil Bryson (Phildo)
Junior Member Username: Phildo
Post Number: 72 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 5:11 pm: | |
I have an 85 GTS (US version) and it appears like the one on the bottom of the photo. Definitely not black at present, but could have been at one point in time. Good luck in your quest Steven. phil |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 127 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 4:00 pm: | |
Jeff and JPM, Jeff, many thanks yet i need the "308" emblem. The photo is my own as i have already acquired the Quattrovalve emblem from Ferrari UK (with many other bits). NO ONE seems to have the "308" emblem and goodness knows i have checked hi and low and called/e-mailed MANY countries... Ooops, just thought of ONE more source in Italy i have not tried... Will call them during their biz hours tomorrow. If they have a few will buy entire stock and distribute here at my cost to others **with proper VIN #** for restoration purposes only. JPM, seems the black paint MIGHT have come off the emblem in your US version. In other words, the emblems MIGHT actually be black as seen in the middle Quattrovalve yet due to over polishing and the years the black has come off. Maybe others will chime in here and MAYBE the US version is different than the Euro? Also, the 1983 version could be different than my Euro 85. As previously mentioned, Ferrari's own Euro '83 literature shows black emblem. Trying to work from the best information/parts sources i can acquire. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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JPM (John_308qv)
Junior Member Username: John_308qv
Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 3:46 pm: | |
My 85 308qv(US) has the bottom quattrovalvole emblem. Know because I can recall cursing while trying to remove years of wax build-up in the lettering. Hope this helps. John |
Jeff Edison (Euro308guy)
Junior Member Username: Euro308guy
Post Number: 215 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 3:20 pm: | |
Steve, Here ya go buddy! http://shop.auctionwatch.com/sodacom/item/536926551/index.html |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 126 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 3:14 pm: | |
TomD, Many thanks. Hard finding a 308 emblem so i may have to paint match the new QV emblem and refurbish what i have now. Hope to find a new one though. Thanks for your help Tom. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 2673 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 2:56 pm: | |
i think the black is right - I think the 308 should look the same - my 2 cents I am no expert |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 125 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 2:53 pm: | |
Andreas, Many thanks! As i can tell, seems the existing ones have been overly polished and, hence, removed the black paint. Appreciate your chiming in here. ALL help is ALWAYS appreciated. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 456 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 2:39 pm: | |
My 84 QV has the black and white 'quattrovalvole' sign as shown in the middle on your pic. |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 2:37 pm: | |
Hi Everyone, First, my apologies for asking so many questions, yet doing my best to authenticate and acquire the appropriate parts... Seen below is a photo of the rear emblems "308" and also "Quattrovalve". The "Quattrovalve" on top (black) was sources from Ferrari UK last week, the lower one is what is currently on the 1985 Euro 308GTS QV. So now the $64,000 question... Which one is correct. Looking at the original Euro sales brochure (N. 258/83 Printed in Italy - 15M/1/83) appears to show the black emblem in one of the photos yet want to be sure as this is a 1983 catalog and my car is a 1985 so "examples" could be different. ALL help is ALWAYS appreciated. Enjoy The Drive, Steven R. Rochlin PS: As always, higher resolution images are available by e-mailing me and are usually 1MB in size.
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