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Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 88
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 24, 2003 - 6:17 am: | |
Am planning on reinstalling the doors, wire harnesses, etc today. Still need to paint the black stripe which runs the length of each side of the car. Putting the doors on first before this final painting. He then needs to do a final buffing, since there are still a few touch-up spots (some areas have hazed up slightly, which require an additional buffing). He will take pics, and post to his website once it's finally back together. The car then needs a thorough cleaning inside, since filler dust has gone everwhere. |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 417
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 9:09 am: | |
Since Thanksgiving, huh? Well, it looks like he's just about done. And he did it right! You'll soon be enjoying your GTB.
Barry |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 87
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:15 pm: | |
Barry, he has painted the rocker panels with the chip resistant paint. Came out pretty good. It should hold up for a while!
The Rosso Chiaro does take on different shades depending upon the angle/amount of light. |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 414
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 7:36 pm: | |
Neil,
I once tried stone chip resistant black paint on the rocker panels of another car I own. After a while, it also began to chip and get that sand-blasted look. You can give it a try. It has a rubberized texture to it. Fortunately, the rocker panels on the Ferrari are easy to repair and paint periodically.
And Rosso Chiaro. I feel that is a very special red as it takes on subtle, different hues depending on lighting conditions.
Barry |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 85
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:48 am: | |
Phil, not seriously. I tossed it out in jest while at the shop one day, and the painter swayed me otherwise. I might have considered a silver/gray color, but like red just as much, if not better. Can't wait to get the car back home! It's been there since Thanksgiving. |
Phil Bryson (Phildo)
Junior Member
Username: Phildo
Post Number: 75
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:10 am: | |
Neil - a question that perhaps borders on heresy....did you consider any color other than Red? |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 84
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 6:34 am: | |
Lee, I don't believe he did. He knows the car will never see inclement weather (at least as long as I own it)! I don't know what he could have done differently for rust protection. I brought this question up to him early on, and he said the car will be sealed tight once the base/clear is applied. I hope he's right!
Barry, thanks for the compliment on my car. It sure looks a heck of a lot better than it did. It had crazing everywhere, particularly on the front bonnet (the aluminum piece). The only rust he located once down to bare metal was a small spot around the right rear taillight section, as well as the front bonnet channel (he said there wasn't enough drainage there).
I am considering having him source a stone chip resistant black paint for the lower rocker panels, instead of original "straight" black paint. Both sides of the car were pretty beat up from the stone chips, especially behind the front tires. |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 409
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 6:50 pm: | |
I've been following this too. It looks beautiful, Neil. |
Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
New member
Username: Leepierce
Post Number: 22
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 6:42 pm: | |
Neil:
The documentation site is amazingly informative for a relative newbie like me!
Quick question, as I haven't finished the whole article yet, did they do any measure of rust-proofing once they were down to the bare metal? I know that the factory did none; I've been wondering if that could be remedied, or if I just need to keep fixing rust spots on my '78 GTS. I've only had it a month, and it only has a couple, but they bother me nonetheless, as do all the other paint imperfections. Your car is looking great! |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 83
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 2:27 pm: | |
Thanks for the comments everyone (Peter, good to hear from you)! You've helped me out alot in the past.
It came in a little costlier than I originally anticipated, but I feel it was done right. With respect to going down to bare metal, the painter didn't want to chance there being a problem lurking underneath the surface. He was amazed at the amount of filler, and attributes a lot of the cracking problem to just too much material on the car. I checked with fellow FerrariChatter's a while back before starting this process, and they mostly agreed to go to bare metal - there's no use shortcutting it...as he says at the bottom of his web page, I WILL need a second job after this is done! |
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member
Username: Peter
Post Number: 2496
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 2:01 pm: | |
Lookin' beautiful Neil! |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 150
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 1:10 pm: | |
Neil,
Many thanks for your reply. You are doing it the CORRECT way and THIS is what i am seeking when it comes time to redo my '85 308GTS QV. Like you, plan on keeping her for many years.
Enjoy The Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member
Username: Bahiaau
Post Number: 528
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 12:29 pm: | |
Congrats Neil, that looks like a fantastic job they are doing. |
BLUE308 (Davidlewis)
New member
Username: Davidlewis
Post Number: 48
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 12:23 pm: | |
Neil, I am following your project closely as I hope to do my 308 soon as well. It looks like you are doing it right.
Question - you may have previously discussed this, but why did you feel the need to take her down to bare metal? Was it corrosion, poor filler adhesion, used aggresive strippers, or...? I was hoping to deal with what I had after sanding off the top coat. |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 82
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 11:28 am: | |
Steve, unfortunately the effort is very time consuming, due to the crude body which is exposed once the sprayable factory body filler which was applied back in '77 is removed (this was unanticipated in my budget). It appears it will be in the $9.3K range when all is said and done. Plan is to begin door reassembly this weekend, then will wait a little while before reinstalling side marker lights, etc.....not a cheap proposition, but I plan on holding onto the car for as long as I'm around, so wanted it done right the first time I guess......it will be slightly over 200 hrs total labor when done...... |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 149
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 9:45 am: | |
Neil,
Most impressive. Might i ask what the time factor and final cost was as i am considering doing the same with my 308QV this coming winter (2003/04). Many thanks. ALL help is ALWAYS apprecaited.
Enjoy The Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Member
Username: Me_k
Post Number: 400
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 9:18 am: | |
Nice. |
Neil Green (Neilg)
Junior Member
Username: Neilg
Post Number: 81
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 8:42 am: | |
To follow up on an earlier thread of mine, the car is now painted! Base/clear (Sikkens) have been applied. The painter is now buffing the car. Attached is his entire process documented to date on what he (and I) have went through!
http://www.redlinerennsport.homestead.com/Ferrari.html |