| Author | Message | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1858 Registered: 9-2001 |
I am having my Boxer exhaust system Jet hot type coated now. | ||
| James Patterson (James_patterson)
New member Username: James_patterson Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2003 |
I have some of the center sections #109127 and #109126 but none of the 'satellites' #110310 and #110309. 972-831-8111 | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1044 Registered: 11-2002 |
Who was asking? Here is a photo of the aftermarket Amerispec Exhaust for BBi's being installed.  | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1830 Registered: 9-2001 |
You can buy a stock Boxer exhaust system at www.owners.ferrari.com. | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 51 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, Did you find any Stock Boxer exhaust systems at Amerispec? | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1822 Registered: 9-2001 |
My 1982 BB512i has an Ansa muffler and the "Ansa" logo is embossed on the bottom of the muffler. But, I don't think mine is stock. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1011 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ok, I looked all over this stock 84 muffler and don't see any tags that say ANSA anywhere. The only 2 tags I see are on the flanks (L&R Resonators) and they simply say Ferrari w/a part #. I can't see the entire center mufflers perfectly till I pull the exhaust for the 30K service, but if tags are there, they're well hidden. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 499 Registered: 8-2001 |
Matt: Thanks. I'm from WI......what do I know? | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2403 Registered: 8-2002 |
Henry, Asking a Ferrari owner in California if they have cats is like asking a woman her age....You just don't do it.  | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 498 Registered: 8-2001 |
James: Does your BBi have cats? I would assume you have to, since you live in CA. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1009 Registered: 11-2002 |
>> Was located on east coast.<< D. Fritz = Amerispec, located on the east coast, NJ. Did a large amount of Amerispec Conversions of BB's. Ph: (203) 744-0844 | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 369 Registered: 6-2002 |
Sure - I only suggest Bill G. at Enzo Motors because he was able to locate one for me. I'm sure there are others that can accomplish the same. Jim S. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1007 Registered: 11-2002 |
James, could I cut out Enzo and call D. Fritz direct? He pulled a few off if I recall. | ||
| James Selevan (Jselevan)
Member Username: Jselevan Post Number: 368 Registered: 6-2002 |
JRV - I was able to find a slightly used complete muffler system with resonators (Bill at Enzo found it for me). Was located on east coast. They are stainless, and thus not prone to disappear with the fog of age. My system looks like new. It was one of those taken off during the conversion process (around 1983). I have already mentioned the price to DaveE. Call Bill at Enzo, he might be able to find another system. Jim S. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1005 Registered: 11-2002 |
Randolf, I thinks it's coming back to me now...(it's hell to get old and forget muffler info) there are some manu tags that say ANSA. I think what threw me was pulling from memory and the HUGE quality difference between ANSA's earlier products and the radical quality difference of their later stuff. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1004 Registered: 11-2002 |
Henryk, oh you are absolutely right, funny thing is though, Ansa was selling Daytona & earlier exhausts for many years (they had to cause the crap rusted out so often) outside the Ferrari network, until Ferrari got into a pissing contest with them a few years back (6-8?)over who owned the jigs, no mufflers for quite a few yrs., then finally some reso;ution a few yrs. ago...but I've never seen (not that I looked hard) BB mufflers listed in their catalogs. But the good news is the BB mufflers aren't the cheap crap the earlier cars had, so really there hasn't been a large need for NOS. I'll check the one at the shop tommorow and see if it has some manu tags on it. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2389 Registered: 8-2002 |
Dave, E-mail Jeff Howe at Ferrari UK. I bet he has them M | ||
| RANDOLPH MADAMBA (Pogibm)
New member Username: Pogibm Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2002 |
JVR mine is a 79BB, there was a small plate which is riveted on the back side of the muffler. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 497 Registered: 8-2001 |
JRV: Re "Next logical question...." It would appear to me that Ferrari made an agreement with it's suppliers, NOT to sell outright to the public, but only to them.......so they can then charge ridiculous prices!!!!!!!!!!! For example: Can one buy ATE (Ferrari) calipers from ATE? It seems that the original parts, except for generic items, still have to be gotten from Ferari. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1003 Registered: 11-2002 |
Where did you see the Ansa label? I have a BBi in now with an original muffler on it, I'll look to see if it has the same tag. | ||
| RANDOLPH MADAMBA (Pogibm)
New member Username: Pogibm Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2002 |
The factory exaust on my boxer was ansa and i belive the headers are made by ansa to, i have a tubi on it now and has been on it for the last 5 years with no problem. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1002 Registered: 11-2002 |
Henryk, good qeustion...from the looks of them I'd say they didn't. The origs don't look anything like what Ansa made for Ferrari on the earlier cars like the Daytona, 330GTC's, etc., etc., etc.. From the looks of them they look German made, judging by build design and construction quality...who made the Porsche stuff Loetz? Leibrietz? something like that? Next logical question along that line of reasoning...I have never seen or heard of supplies of new ones from any euro manufacturer or supplier. | ||
| Henryk (Henryk)
Member Username: Henryk Post Number: 494 Registered: 8-2001 |
For a car like the BBi, did Ferrari make their own exhaust, or did some company do it for them? DaveE: Look into a Tubi exhaust and headers.....this is what I have on my BBi. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 999 Registered: 11-2002 |
I don't know of any stock muffler systems laying around. To be honest I don't know where they all went. Many went back on the cars after they became legal, but a certian amount of cars still have cats or AM mufflers on them, so where those went I really can't say. It's hard to guess on price also. | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
New member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 47 Registered: 8-2002 |
JRV, Would it be easy to find a used stock BBi system for sale . What is the going price ? THanks | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 998 Registered: 11-2002 |
"Euro'84 Boxer " ALL Boxers were euro/gray market...in fact many dealers refused to service them back in the days of dealer vs graymarket wars. Once the cars were imported thru the gray market channels they "had to be" converted to US specs (yes there were some cars with Forged tests and Docs that never were converted) , which among other things required fitting a Cat. Convv., lots of cars were changed after the paperwork issues were complete to aftermarket mufflers and the cats removed. Personally I can't think of any reason a Borla is not as good as other mufflers. I've know Alex Borla for many years and the products I've used (no boxer mufflers)always looked decent to me. | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
New member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 46 Registered: 8-2002 |
Spell check - EXHAUST | ||
| DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
New member Username: Banzaiboxr Post Number: 45 Registered: 8-2002 |
I Bought a stock Euro'84 Boxer with a Borla Exaust and would like to know if this is a popular setup or not a good system.I have been told the stock system is the best for good high and low end power.I think i will probably start looking for a stock setup.Any thoughts would be helpful. |