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Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 1124 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 2:20 pm: | |
I believe its a flowmaster for a buick grandnational that would work. 2 inlets and 2 outlets in one muffler. |
Ben Millermon (Brainsboy)
Junior Member Username: Brainsboy
Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 7:19 am: | |
Rob has a set up with a flow master and hedman hot tip resinators. It would be great if he could add his sound here to compare all 3 exhausts. I was thinking about doing Robs setup on my car. Flow masters usualy have a good sound, although I have never heard one on a ferrari, I bet it sounds the best. |
Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
Junior Member Username: Navygakman
Post Number: 89 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:24 pm: | |
I will try to answer some of the questions here the best I can - I am "technically-challenged". 1. The sounds: A - Tubi B - Kermit's 2. Those are not glass packs. I saw the inside while it was being put together. I will leave it to Kermit if he wants to elaborate on the construction. 3. Kermit is the tuner/master machinist who rebuild my motor. He worked with Nick Scianna of ForzaFerrari and he is based in Blaine with his own machine shop. His passion is developing "performance parts" - like BASF, "he doesn't make the cars, he makes the cars run better". ;-) |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 1123 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 9:08 pm: | |
It looks like a pair of glass packs and not too difficult to make yourself. I wonder though if they should have some sort of balance pipe between banks? Unless of course the flat crank makes this hotrod trick redundant. |
Ben Millermon (Brainsboy)
Junior Member Username: Brainsboy
Post Number: 128 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 8:32 pm: | |
Are those just glass packs welded together? |
Phil Bryson (Phildo)
Junior Member Username: Phildo
Post Number: 83 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 1:00 pm: | |
FWIW - I thought A had a 'purer' sound. B seems to me to have more of an exhaust-induced sound to it. That's a nice looking setup. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 278 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 12:54 pm: | |
Stebro test pipes are really nice because they have a center section that is slightly enlarged to carry stainless steel wool behind a baffle. they call their test pipes "euro resonator pipes" for that reason -- a much nicer/deeper sound than straight test pipes. |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 994 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:14 am: | |
I got a stebro. Cost and sound very acceptable. Fit perfect. Test pipes also available. |
Barney Guzzo (Trinacria)
Junior Member Username: Trinacria
Post Number: 131 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 10:35 am: | |
"B" hands down |
mike 308 (Concorde)
Junior Member Username: Concorde
Post Number: 131 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
I liked "A"... but which is which exhaust? |
stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad
Post Number: 171 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 11:47 am: | |
Hi Stewart, I finally got through and I prefer A. B seems throatier, but IMHO, it overwhelms the motor.(ran lots of A vs B w/ headphones really loud) A sounds crisper and has less resonance. So give it up. Which is Kermit? I'm guessing B. Both sound great! Steve |
Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
Junior Member Username: Navygakman
Post Number: 88 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 9:45 am: | |
Kermit is road-testing this exhaust on my car so at this point I don't "own" it. If I like it I will buy it from him and then my Tubi will be up for sale. BTW, this is a picture of the Tubi.
I should also say, that the Kermit weights about 50% of the Tubi if weight is a concern.... |
Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
Junior Member Username: Navygakman
Post Number: 87 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 9:31 am: | |
I am just getting the car back today with the new "Kermit" exhaust so I need to drive it a few weeks and hear it ON THE ROAD before posting my final opinions on it. But Kermit (he is on the Chat) has flow-benched it and it performed better than the Tubi (which is what I had on the car before) and the dyno numbers confirmed that too. I also like the way it "looks". As to buying one and the cost, I'll leave that up to Kermit. But I am quite sure it will be less than a Tubi.
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Don McCormick (Dandy_don)
Junior Member Username: Dandy_don
Post Number: 55 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 10:38 pm: | |
Stewart, I liked B better. It sounded "throatier" I would be interested in buying one of these mufflers if you are planning on selling it for less than a Tubi. Don |
Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
Junior Member Username: Navygakman
Post Number: 86 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 8:21 pm: | |
sorry about that...I guess a lot of folks are downloading the files (large!) and the hosting company cannot handle the traffic.... that "featureprice" really SUCKS!! just wait till I post nude pictures of Rudi Bahtier.... ;-)
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mike 308 (Concorde)
Junior Member Username: Concorde
Post Number: 130 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 6:10 pm: | |
Now I'm getting "due to high demand, currently can not be delivered" |
stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad
Post Number: 169 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 6:00 pm: | |
Hi Stewart, I get a "Request Time Out" message and no link. Too bad as I'm really interested in this thread! Steve |
mike 308 (Concorde)
Junior Member Username: Concorde
Post Number: 129 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 4:48 pm: | |
Couldn't get to the page on your link, error msg: "page not found" |
Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
Junior Member Username: Navygakman
Post Number: 85 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 3:53 pm: | |
I am testing out a new exhaust. Would you guys give me an opinion as to which SOUNDS better? Don't do this unless you have good bandwidth. http://snurl.com/v79 A or B?? Oh, I should say, one is from a Tubi. The other is from a prototype developed locally here by Kermit with a flow bench test that performs BETTER than the Tubi. And it looks like this....
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