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ken rentiers (Rentiers)
Junior Member
Username: Rentiers
Post Number: 106
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 7:24 pm: | |
I solved it with a filter change - another UFi (what I have on hand). Oiled the ring, checked to make sure old rubber gasket was not retained on the plate of the engine, 3/4 turn hand tight - used a marker. So far it's as dry as Mother Ignatius. |
mike 308 (Concorde)
Junior Member
Username: Concorde
Post Number: 132
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 12:31 pm: | |
I guess that's instead of "Quality by Design" |
William Henderson (Billh)
New member
Username: Billh
Post Number: 49
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 12:23 pm: | |
www.ufi.it
I love their site under construction.
it says: "Our Quality, a matter of human resources"
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Russ Gould (Russ)
New member
Username: Russ
Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 10:16 am: | |
There is a bulletin out..UFI made defective filters about 2 years ago, they would fail spectacularly. Mine dumped oil for a mile before the light came on. Anyone suing? |
Bruno (Originalsinner)
Intermediate Member
Username: Originalsinner
Post Number: 1006
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:18 am: | |
Hand tight always works for me on al my cars. Check gasket. I got a bad fram oil filter .The gasket was like curved/not cut right and it leaked bad.
You go tightening it up to tight with wrench when u go to take it off watch out. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1466
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:06 am: | |
Ken -- If it doesn't turn out to be a filter problem, also check the pressure sensor & switch (they can weep at the swagged body joints) |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2609
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 8:11 am: | |
Ken,
I use a Baldwin B253 on my 308 and I would recommened them for your 328. I changed a fellow Fchatters oil in his 348 yesterday with fresh from the dealer UFI's. He had a box of 6. One was bad from the box. The threads were wrong.
.02 cents |
ken rentiers (Rentiers)
Junior Member
Username: Rentiers
Post Number: 90
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 7:36 am: | |
My part # is 23 162 01: this is the new and improved UFI. Yes I started the motor after installation in order to get the exact oil level. This filter comes in the yellow and black box and has 'Ferrari" stamped on the side in the familiar script. I didn't fill the filter with oil because of the mess on inversion.
Will try your suggestion, Carmine and if leak persists will replace. Ouch - these filters are not cheap, but of course much cheaper than a rebuild! |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 2888
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 7:17 am: | |
I always wondered about filling it with oil but how do you keep the oil in there when tighening?? you really don't want to leak on the clutch and other things right below it? |
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member
Username: Vwalfa4re
Post Number: 627
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 7:13 am: | |
I just checked mine and it has the number ends in 00. It has been on for 1500 miles. It's coming off today. What was the problem and do I need to worry about anything now? I have had no apparent problems with it so far. |
Steve (Steve)
Member
Username: Steve
Post Number: 320
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 7:13 am: | |
This raises a question to me. How many people use a wrench or strap to install their oil filters ? I have never done anything then hand tighten. In fact it is not recommended to use a filter wrench to put these things on. I'm sure we know the proper procedure but what I do is : clean the filter housing base , apply using my finger a thin film of oil on the new filter gasket , if possible fill the filter 1/2 way with oil , put on the filter until the gsaket/seal just touches the filter housing , mark the filter with a marker , turn it by hand to 3/4 - 1 turn and you are done. I've never had any filter leak yet even when I used UFI (now use Baldwin). As a point the filter can is crimped onto the filter base . Hand tightening does not exert as much torque on this area which is prone to separate if tightened to much. My 2 cents here |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 2884
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 6:58 am: | |
I assume you started the car after the oil change, otherwise I am not sure how any oil got into the filter after the change to then work its way out of the seal? |
John_Miles (John_miles)
New member
Username: John_miles
Post Number: 41
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 1:52 am: | |
Sears sells oil filter wrenches in two sizes. The larger one will fit the UFI. |
Carmine Nicoletta (Ncarmine)
Junior Member
Username: Ncarmine
Post Number: 56
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:38 pm: | |
Ken,
This worked for me. Take an old leather belt, and wrap it clockwise around the filter at least two overlapping turns to create a tightening friction. Then grab the end of the belt with your right hand and your thumb against the filter you can tighten another 1/2 turn.
I could not find an oil wrench that fits the back of the UFI filter after a couple of autopart stores stops.
Carmine |
Randle Roberts (Racerboy9)
New member
Username: Racerboy9
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 9:09 pm: | |
I had those bad UFI filters on my Stratos. Blew one on the way to an event- a lot of smoke! but at least no fire. Caught a ride home, de-oiled the motor, put on another UFI and blew it again on the way home. I am a Baldwin filter guy now as I am jaded on UFI. |
Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member
Username: 348paul
Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 6:30 pm: | |
Ken,
When you take the filter off, have a real good close look at the machined surface that the rubber seal mates up to. Although the rubber seal should take up any imperfections, if there is a burr, dig, heavy scratch etc on the sealing surface it will never seal. It needs to be perfectly flat. � You may have already done this but it is really worth inspecting very closely. I always use a smear of grease rather than oil on the sealing ring.
Just my 2 cents!
Paul
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Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 1119
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 5:25 pm: | |
There was a problem with the UFI gasket. Im running a UFI myself and fortunately have had no leaks yet. Hand tightened. |
BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobd
Post Number: 1057
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 5:16 pm: | |
Wasn't there a concensus that UFI filters had a record of faulty gaskets.... some actually blew out while driving the car? Ken, I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure most 308/328 FChatters are using Baldwin B253 filters. |
Philip Airey (Pma1010)
Junior Member
Username: Pma1010
Post Number: 156
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 5:09 pm: | |
Ken
I hand tighten and then use a strap wrench to make it snug. Anything else and it leaks. Just one person's experience. On size, just take the filter into NAPA and ask them for a suitable strap wrench. |
Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member
Username: Kdross
Post Number: 262
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 4:04 pm: | |
Ken:
I have always hand tightened mine without any problem. Sounds as if you have a bad filter or the gasket has problems. Either way, you need to put a new filter on. Also, check to be sure that the UFI filter you are using is the updated version. The last two numbers should be 01 and not 00. Many of the old filters are still around.
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ken rentiers (Rentiers)
Junior Member
Username: Rentiers
Post Number: 89
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 3:42 pm: | |
Dear List:
Changed the oil last week. Put on a "new" correct part# UFI oil filter. Just hand tight because I didn't have a large enough oil filter torque wrench sleeve.
Car has not moved since then, but today we have about a cupful of oil on the cement just under the filter fitting. Since it was dry before I can't think of anything else except the filter weeping oil.
So - went and bought a "D" size oil filter torque wrench sleeve - it's STILL not big enough!!!
I know the spec is 25lbs.
1. Do I need to torque it to get it right?
2. What size oil filter torque wrench sleeve am I looking for and where do I find it?
-ken-
mechanical dummy |