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Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member
Username: Eurocardoc
Post Number: 417
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 11:49 am: | |
Thanks. My shop is in Indiana. We were running some vintage formula cars at Willow, then we will be in Fontana March 23/24.
ps saw two 550s and a blue 355 spyder out there, anyone from the F-chat? |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1084
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:03 am: | |
Agree if the hinge pins are the problem of course replace the pin rather that shimming if the door still sags adjust the hinges.
I have seen plenty of door sag resulting from give in the hinge mounts area thou.
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Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2806
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 9:03 am: | |
Agree Henry.
My doors sagged and I replaced the pins at a cost of $12 each and some .05 cent snap rings and it's as good as new. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 529
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 12:48 am: | |
I don't understand the resposes to this thread.
If the door "droops", then the pin and hinge are obviously worn.......they should be replaced.
Shimming a door, due to worn pin and hinge makes no sense to me. The door may fit right, but it will STILL be loose.
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Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 601
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 12:26 am: | |
My grease gun won't clamp onto the hing pin's fitting which is smaller than usual.
Anyone know where I can get a smaller end for my grease gun? |
JohnR. (Rivee)
Junior Member
Username: Rivee
Post Number: 158
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 3:31 pm: | |
Mike, JRV is right about protecting the paint around the door as it will swing wildly when you loosen the bottom hinge. You also definately want to support the door bottom BEFORE loosining the hinge |
Ben Millermon (Brainsboy)
Junior Member
Username: Brainsboy
Post Number: 131
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 10:09 am: | |
The quick fix is to just open the door about 1 foot wide, and use a jack under it. Jack it up slowly until you get some pressure under it. You should be able to adjust as much as 1/4" with this. Careful to watch the front of the door, lifting it too much will cause the door to hit the fender. You can first try just yanking the door upward if that doesnt work use a jack. This is the backyard mechanics way of fixing it. I am not recommending this, just posting it as a quick fix. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1063
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 9:28 am: | |
>>Mike, the bottom hinge already has a shim from the factory, at least mine did. Take a piece of sheet metal and copy the factory shim then shove it behind the bottom hinge. One or two should do it.<<
That's the fix allright, easier said than done though. Takes two people and a floor jack, and be real real careful not to chip the paint on the door edges (might not be a bad idea to tape the edges while doing this) when adjusting up/down & in/out.. |
JohnR. (Rivee)
Junior Member
Username: Rivee
Post Number: 156
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 8:13 am: | |
Mike, the bottom hinge already has a shim from the factory, at least mine did. Take a piece of sheet metal and copy the factory shim then shove it behind the bottom hinge. One or two should do it. |
Henryk (Henryk)
Member
Username: Henryk
Post Number: 520
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:46 pm: | |
I had the same problem when I owned a 308. As the pin was thinned out due to wear, so it was that the bracket, that holds the pin, had opened up. I had to replace both in order to solve the problem. |
Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member
Username: Newman
Post Number: 1132
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
Bill, try a awl or a pick to depress the ball. Then it shoud take the grease. My passenger door groans a bit but I suspect its the door stay on mine. Somewhere inside the door its not happy where is slides inside. Ill get to it someday. |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 427
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:06 pm: | |
Matt,
I haven't tried silicone spray. I suspect if works it will only be short term solution. I really need to get some grease into the pin. Perhaps a good tap of the frozen ball with a brass drift pin will jar it loose enough to get some penetrating oil in there and really free it up. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2722
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:00 pm: | |
Bill,
have you tried silicone spray? the wet kind? |
Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Member
Username: Bill308
Post Number: 426
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 9:59 pm: | |
In a related issue, I tried to grease the hinge pins on my driver's side door. I was successful with one hinge but not the other. The one wouldn't accept grease from my grease gun. I suspect the ball valve may be frozen. Does anyone have a trick for freeing it up? The door squeeks when I move it and it's making me mad. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 2719
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 9:54 pm: | |
Brian,
I got new pins from Dennis McCains.
$12 each and a ••••• to get in but it helped my doors.
Are you So Cal local? |
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Junior Member
Username: Pupz308
Post Number: 149
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 9:54 pm: | |
Interesting--I've been struggling with this myself lately. I feel like my doors lag somewhat, as well.
They *will* close, but I have to really slam 'em, and "follow through" as well until the door really stops.
Anybody want to outline a quick procedure to add shim to the bottom hinge to correct door sag? Never done anything like that before...
Thanks guys.
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JohnR. (Rivee)
Junior Member
Username: Rivee
Post Number: 154
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 9:43 pm: | |
Yes
Yes
Don't know.
I had simular prob. I had a broken hinge pin. Tried to take out top hinge pin ended up cutting the hinge off the door to get the broken pin out. The new pin corrected most of the sag but slso added shims to the bottom hinge to raise the door. |
Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Member
Username: Bob308gts
Post Number: 424
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 9:40 pm: | |
Had the same problem on my 79, ended up shimming the bottom hinge out with a 20ga shim, corrected a 3/16" drop at the trailing end of the door. |
Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member
Username: Eurocardoc
Post Number: 416
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 8:49 pm: | |
Any experience with doors dropping on the hinge pins? Can the pins themselves be replaced and correct the problem? 84 308QV. thanks, Brian
ps Will be at Willow Springs this weekend, look for a LARGE black truck! |