| Author | Message | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1152 Registered: 12-2001 |
Half the price of a ferrari one Tom? Well, that should work out to about 10K. Spring is just around the corner Jay..... | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 266 Registered: 9-2002 |
Whoa Just noticed somthing...How did I get to Formula3 so fast?? | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 265 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jay I'll call my friend at GT Radiator. They make oil coolers all day long. I'll see if they can fix it. Though they will probably need to see your old one. They could probbably make you one for half the price Ferrari would charge. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1133 Registered: 10-2001 |
I already bought OEM oil cooler hoses. My oil cooler though has a striped fitting, can they fix that or do I need a whole new cooler? | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 264 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jay and Paul.. Contact a company by the name of Regenal Hose. They are located just off Kipling Avenune on Norseman Rd. I have taken lots of oil lines to them too have them made. And yes they can an will reuse the orginal ends. All they do is Hydralic lines and hoses. They have tons of fittings in stock. | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr Post Number: 150 Registered: 10-2002 |
I haven't done mine yet, but from talking to them, they use high quality materials and industrial processes to do the job. The main issue that concerns me is my understanding that the critical part of the job is getting the original fittings on at the precise orientation so they fit properly between the block and the oil cooler. I believe that shop does these lines on a fairly regular basis for a local Ferrari shop, so their experience should provide a quality job. If they botched the job and had to redo it, it would still be much cheaper than the $300 original part. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2570 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think they look better than the original braided-hoses. Since they were hydraulic hose, the braiding is on the inside, with a lightly textured rubber cover on the outside. The blue lettering is specific to this hose manufacturer (Caterpillar), but looks cool anyways   | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1150 Registered: 12-2001 |
Ron and Peter, are you happy with the look of the lines? Maybe Im too anal but if the ends were different and the hoses were visibly different than the originals then I might loose sleep. Ive lost enough sleep over this car by making less expensive decisions and bought twice in the end. Show us some pics of the lines if you can. I would like to see them. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2567 Registered: 12-2000 |
If I had known these hoses were so unobtainium, I would've bought tons of them. All told (new hoses, ends, ferrules and assembling) came out to $200 Cdn TOTAL (both hoses). The only problem was sourcing out those banjos which took around 6-8 weeks (finally got them from a place in Quebec)... | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2002 |
Paul, The source I found here does hoses for Ferrari Services of Costa Mesa. I spoke to Jeff at Orange County Hose Co., 714-546-9922, and they do a lot of industrial work, in addition to these oil lines. Jeff told me they normally don't do work for individuals, but he agreed to help me out with one of mine. I haven't removed it and sent it in yet, but plan to soon. Cost is around $50 for my lower oil cooler hose. As stated below, they do reuse your hose attachment ends, but reinstall new braided hose using industrial presses. Better than new! | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1131 Registered: 10-2001 |
Paul, my whole project turned into a "while your there you might as well..." | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 937 Registered: 4-2002 |
Also, do a search. Someone here said recently that a hydraulic hose repair shop was able to re-use the ends. Apparaently it's not real obvious how to take them apart. | ||
| Gerrit Visser (Gerritv)
Junior Member Username: Gerritv Post Number: 168 Registered: 6-2001 |
Paul Contact Peter 308GT4, he found a source for the banjo's and hose in Canada. Wish I had known before spending $$$$$$$$$$ on mine :-( | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1145 Registered: 12-2001 |
Jay, Ill be yanking the engine in a week or so and I plan to replace a bunch of bolts and nuts, clean, clean and clean again everything in sight. Im not looking forward to replacing the oil cooler hoses though $$$$. If you know who gets his GT4 engine out and apart in time Ill try to get my hands on his euro cams and do that while Im there. I have a feeling Im going fall into the "while Im there I might as well..." trap. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1128 Registered: 10-2001 |
Paul, do I get the sense that you are cleaning as you are going? Are you going to clean up the engine compartment and tanks while you're at it? | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1143 Registered: 12-2001 |
I like the strap idea, seems pretty safe. I may go that route this time around because I really dont want to remove the carbs again, what a PITA that is, not to mention re-syncing them when it runs great as it is. Just yank it, do the syncros and plop it back in. | ||
| Charles I Claussen (Atlantaman)
Junior Member Username: Atlantaman Post Number: 97 Registered: 3-2002 |
I just installed my motor back into my car-- I got 6' x 2" nylon tow straps and hooked the ends to the motor mounts--worked like a charm. Beware!!!-- if you barrow or rent a hoist, make sure it is a tall one and the arm is extendable. It is a long reach to get up and over a 308 trunk. PS--you will also want to tilt the motor (trunk-side low) to help getting in and out | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2561 Registered: 12-2000 |
I used 2" wide nylon straps which wrapped around the whole drivetrain to pick mine out.  The key though with any of our lifts was to centre the lifting point above the forward intake. This tilts the engine back and makes it possible to slip out of the narrower engine-bay opening. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1141 Registered: 12-2001 |
Once split from the gearbox, you can mount it on an engine stand like any other V8. Here it is with the new high compression pistons I had made to give it a bit more punch. My only regret is the whole thing is coming out again in a week or 2 so I can replace some syncros. They were ok at the time but are showing signs of getting tired, particularly 3rd. Oh well. Ill post pics of the gearbox overhaul as Im doing it.    Ill be performing the oil bleed hole modification while the gearbox is apart to fix the cranky 2nd gear the 308's can have when cold. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3254 Registered: 2-2001 |
If you do a search you might find some stuff from when I pulled mine, I think I posted some pics, etc. Usually I titled threads starting with "308QV" so that might be a good thing to start searching with. | ||
| Paul Newman (Newman)
Intermediate Member Username: Newman Post Number: 1140 Registered: 12-2001 |
Here are some pics of my carbed engine on the lift. You would have to make a different bracket for the QV head than the one I made but the idea would be the same. The angle the engine sits at on the lift is critical to clear the engine compartment.     | ||
| Timothy Fulmer (Tf308)
New member Username: Tf308 Post Number: 35 Registered: 5-2002 |
I was wondering how to remove the engine on a 308. Specifically where do you mount the chain or rope or strap to the motor? I would appreciate feedback from anyone with first hand experience. I think it will be amazing to see the differences between the group. |