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Randy Ines (Raines)
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 8:47 pm:   

James- That sounds scary.

David- Unfortunately my manual is a souvenir to the last owner(s)...along with a spare tire, A/C, and air pump. I would love to be a DIYer...as soon as I get a manual. :)
James H. (Jamesh)
Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2001 - 12:14 pm:   

I lost first gear on my 84 308 when I was driving it from Midland,Texas to Chicago. I had just purchased the car and stopped to get gas on the second day when this happened. When I put it into 1st and release the clutch, nothing happens. I drove the rest of the way back to Chicago starting off in second gear. Lucky I was almost home and it was mostly freeway driving. Brought it in and it was a simple adjustment, a nut came loose and it cost a little over 200.
David Harris (Dakharris)
Posted on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:09 pm:   

Randy: I had only owned the car for a month when it did this to me. I paid $650 so that Ferrari would check out a number of other little things I had found wrong and wasn't sure what to do about them or how bad they were. The shop manual shows the procedure for adjusting the linkage as being fairly simple. Had I been over the phase where we treat our newly-acquired Ferraris like bone china, I would have adjusted it myself. However, if you are going to have someone put a clutch in for you, they will be adjusting the linkage anyway. Do you have a shop manual? They are almost as helpful as FerrariChat.
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:45 pm:   

OK Buddy, GOOD LUCK!
Randy Ines (Raines)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:27 pm:   

David- Heard it costs you $650 to fix. Looks like I'll be there soon. Needs a clutch job anyway.

Magoo- Good or bad, she was a racer in a past life. Mechanic who inspected knew right away...but I don't know what he was looking at.
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:15 pm:   

P.S. Randy, If you are going to change the gear oil, I would try Mobil 1 synthetic. It seems to be the best in curing cranky problems in the Ferrari gear box.
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 11:08 pm:   

Randy, If it is shifter alignment I really don't have the one particular answer. Many things in the past such as force shifting, which I understand you don't do, but the guy who owned the car before you? Are you using the orig. shifter gate on the console? Any previous adjustments on the linkage? There are other guys who have had the problem and maybe they can relate their experiences and causes of the problem. Also to answer your question about changing the gear oil, if it is shifter alignment, I don't feel this would help. You can try it on a hunch that it may not be S.A. but it really sounds like that to me. Sorry I can't be of anymore help.
David Harris (Dakharris)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 6:27 pm:   

Mine locked up in second gear with no warning....after a day of spirited driving in the country with the Ferrari Club.
Randy Ines (Raines)
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 5:39 pm:   

Magoo,
What would cause this? I'm not as spirited in my driving as others are, and the "lock" came suddenly. Could changing the gear oil make a difference?
magoo (Magoo)
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 5:33 pm:   

Now, that sounds like shifter alignment to me.
Randy Ines (Raines)
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 3:59 pm:   

Just recently, I had "reverse" lock solid on me trying to bring her down from local shop ramp (would only move forward). Eventually had to take off gate and start again in neutral and test drive all gears. Currently, I have to shove and hold in reverse- picture me holding shifter in place with my left hand while unlocking emergency brake, switching hands to back up, turning steering wheel with one hand. Occasionally, "first" will lock as well. Quite embarrassing when people see you struggling with the shifter at a stop. Is this a familiar 308 thang?
charles claussen (Atlantaman)
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 12:41 am:   

oops that should rean internal shift bar!!!!
charles claussen (Atlantaman)
Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2001 - 4:42 pm:   

This is a common problem and the fix is rather involved----
when shifting into reverse and first the interanal shifting rod slides down into a recess on the endcap adapter---it is a blind hole and if cold thick oil is in there is is hard to compress and "squirt out"---as the oil gets hot is "squirts out" easily...

there is a way to drill a tiny hole at the end of big hole to allow the bar to push the oil out and back into the sump...

am not at home now but if you e-mail me next week i will fax to you the pictures and directions
charles
Warren E. Smith (Magoo)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 11:16 pm:   

Robert change the gear oil and use Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil. Instructions in your owners manual for changing.
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 10:30 pm:   

"If you can't find it, grind it J"

My forth gear would occasionally crunch on-the-go, sometimes and sometimes not. Looking into the trans, I see no signs of wear or damage on the syncrhos. I'll find out if it continues when I put my car back on the road (could've been the old oil that was in it before).
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 9:06 pm:   

I have a 82 308gtbi, I just bought the car a month ago and am having the same problem. Sometimes it will shift fine into first other times not. I usually put it in reverse, then into first, when at a full stop. You can actually feel the shifter when it is in first, it feels like it locks into the gear. I have also tried second to first which usually does not work. When moving and slowing down less than 8mph or so I will slide it into first when coming to a light or stop sign, its not to cool taking off in second ( if you know what I mean).Usually it will shift into first when the car is rolling...
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 9:02 pm:   

I have a 82 308gtbi, I just bought the car a month ago and am having the same problem. Sometimes it will shift fine into first other times not. I usually put it in reverse, then into first, when at a full stop. You can actually feel the shifter when it is in first, it feels like it locks into the gear. I have also tried second to first which usually does not work. When moving and slowing down less than 8mph or so I will slide it into first when coming to a light or stop sign, its not to cool taking off in second ( if you know what I mean).Usually it will shift into first when the car is rolling...
David Harris (Dakharris)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 4:53 pm:   

It's hard to tell how serious your problem is. Maybe you just need a fluid change. The tranny on my '85 QV slowly started to feel like it wasn't properly lubricated and even squeeked now and then. Fluid was ok. One day, a long way from home, it stuck in 2nd gear making a left turn. I won't go into the "excitement" that followed, but after I got the shift gate off I was able to get it out of 2nd only to find that I had lost reverse and first. It turns out that the forks were out of alignment. It was a $650 fix at the dealer, but her trans was given a clean bill of health.
Robert L. Fleming (Rfleming)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 4:17 pm:   

Last weekend, a buddy let me take his 308 GTS-QV for a spin with my daughter. He noted earlier that he was having trouble getting it in 1st...no mechanical difficulty with the gate or linkage, just no connection when declutched. We tried the synchro in 2nd or 3rd trick that Steve M. mentions to Yoshi above, but no luck. My guess is that the 1st synchro is gone, or that there is a "valet" switch locking out 1st that my buddy doesn't know about (he just bought the car recently). Any ideas?
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 3:05 pm:   

Yoshi -- do you mean when stopped? If you select 2nd or 3rd gear (when stopped) and then quickly select 1st gear from there is it any better? Is the gearbox fluid full and/or fresh?
Yoshi Toda (Ytoda928)
Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2001 - 2:53 pm:   

Has anyone experience some problem shifting into the first gear? I am well familiar with the problem of shifting into 2nd gear, but the problem at the 1st gear is new to me. It seems to shift much easier once the engine gets warmed up. Can anyone help me?

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