| Author | Message | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 561 Registered: 7-2001 |
Paul, you may want to start a new thread for that question. | ||
| paul lopez (Huscar)
New member Username: Huscar Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2003 |
Sounding like the novice I am, passenger lamp on 89 328 GTS looks a bit yellow when headlamps on. Tried cleaning connector and no improvment. Any suggestions if added wiring or new bulb (if so, what kind?) may cure? Left headlamp is fine. Huscar | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2002 |
Thanks to all who responded, I after much soul searching today I got a set of Bridgestone S-02's. Chris seemed to have a good argument and I read many websites about both tires. i have been a loyal Pirelli owner but thought that i should also support Ferrari's F1 sponsors. The plain S-02's were the most expensive and many told me they are on closeout to be replaced with the S-02 Pole Position which is supposed to be better in the wet. I was told by Bridgestone that the tread life was supposed to be the same for both tires. I also like the tread design, even though modern it has a classic feel to me. I also liked the plain sidewalls. The P-zero Nero had a sidewall graphic package which to me is just more wasted time cleaning inside the ribs!!! My car is up on stands and I am doing my yearly service so it will be a couple of weeks before I mount them. That is always my dread. I have never had a rim mounted even by the most careful tech that has not damaged it some way!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I had my own machine!!! Thanks again for all your input, I listened to all but once again beeing the brokest guy on the list I decided to go the most expensive route. Rob | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 131 Registered: 4-2001 |
Put S03's on my 328 replacing Goodyear GSC's and love them. Great everything including track performance. Agree P Zero's are a fine tire and stick like velcro but didn't see any progrssive give at the limit after spinning my 512TR big time at Robeling Road. Great grip and the next second both feet in. I am also tired of only 4-5000 miles on the rears of both my 512 and 360 and am considering S03's for both since the P zeros are almost gone on both. | ||
| mark richards (Theneed4speed)
New member Username: Theneed4speed Post Number: 25 Registered: 8-2002 |
ohhh dear i have just broughtMICHELLIN PILOT SPORT for the front(225.40,18)was this bad for my 348 | ||
| Jim DeRespino (Jimbo)
Junior Member Username: Jimbo Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2001 |
anybody with experience with the Toyo Proxes TS-1?? | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 230 Registered: 6-2002 |
Haven't tried the Neros, but love my Pzero Asymetricos! (in F355 18" sizes) They grip like a slick, and have a nice progressive These tyres talk to you. Great progressive give and break at the limit. There's warning, not an excessive ammount that starts just when you're having fun, but if you push it right up to the edge they'll say "Hey, uh, do you really wanna, OH OK HERE WE GO!!!" Car is also quite catchable on the Pzeros. Though a 4 point would help matters (biggest problem is keeping butt off the door pannel...) Lots of times they don't feel like you're going that hard, because you're at 80% of what the tire can do (wheras on lesser tyres, you'd be at 100% and sweating bullets, thinking "I'm really hauling ass". but you're not.) Yes they ride rougher than some crap tire, and they are noisy. But you don't care, because you always have the engine above 4 grand anyway, they grip so hard. They're acutally fairly old as far as age of technology goes, but they were ahead of their time at introduction. PS: Noticed wet grip was actually astounding, FAR better than continentals. Just my expierence with the older Asymetricos. Best! Ben. | ||
| Dan Watkins (Dan360)
New member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2003 |
OK - dug out the Autocar - 29 Jan 2003 edition, its a great mag which I recommend (plug over!). The S-03 quote was "Bridgestone a consistent high scorer in our high performance test in the past - declined to take part this year possibly we suspect because the new s-03 has faired poorly in other independent assetsments." The tires tested on the M3 were:- 1. Pirelli P-zero rosso 2. Continental Sport Contact 1 3. Michellin Pilot Sport Pirelli won on dry handling, wet handling, aquaplaning in a curve, wet braking. It came second in straight aquaplaning and 3rd in rolling resistance and noise (!) Its a very comprensive test and the back issue is no doubt still available for about $5. Hope this helps. Dan | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 403 Registered: 4-2002 |
I can add the following: My car would slide and slither all around the track on S02s. It feels and drive much better on the S03PPs. S03s are quieter to boot. 95F355. | ||
| neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member Username: 95spiderneal Post Number: 94 Registered: 3-2002 |
kumho mx street tires have supreme performance, good comfort and wear and are 1/2 price of competition. try them | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 242 Registered: 5-2002 |
Dan --- Please dig out the Autocar review in your bathroom. Would like to learn more! Tx. | ||
| Chris F. (Chrisfromri)
New member Username: Chrisfromri Post Number: 17 Registered: 1-2003 |
Rob, Seriously, tire technology has come a long way since both of our QVs were made. Our cars were very advanced for their day, and IMO do not deserve to be handicapped with anything less than the best tires we can find today. I had the Expedia S-01 tires on my QV, and they still had life left on them when I had a new set of S-02 tires installed. I noticed the improvement on my first drive. That was an educated choice for me as I already had a set of S-02 tires on my Honda S2000 Roadster and really liked them on that car. That little roadster is an interesting contrast to my '84 308 GTB QV. It is not nearly as forgiving to drive as the 308, since it has some extra HP and weighs about 400 pounds less. It can be a handful if driver inputs are too abrupt. On the other hand, its power curve is very different as its cams really come on strong from 6000 RPM to the 9000 RPM redline. Honda has great engineers, and they picked the S-02 for this car knowing full well it could be a handful for many drivers. The S-02 tires also came standard on Porsche Boxsters, though that car is not nearly as hot to handle. The S-02 is a proven tire, offered as standard equipment on two fine open sports cars by two companies known for their advanced engineering. Having said that, the Pirelli tires you are considering do have a more traditional looking tread, and maybe this makes you happier. I believe there is much more to these tires than what the tread looks like. I have not driven them, but I once had a set of Pirelli tires on my Saab and they were great, although they wore out and were replaced with a different set of Pirelli tires which I unfortunately thought were pretty bad tires, and then I replaced those prematurely with a great set of Vredesteen tires. Pirelli clearly makes some great tires, and you are right to consider them. As far as the S-03 goes, I understand that Bridgestone released it in response to complaints from the market about short life with the S-02. The S-03 was designed to last longer (IMO this usually means it has less grip). In the S2000 club, (where S-02 tires are worn out frequently) almost everyone sticks with the S-02 for the extra grip at replacement time. The folks I know that were adventurous and tried the S-03 (to save a few dollars) on an S2000, after their initial experience with the S-02, quickly switched back to the S-02. As I said, it's a hot little roadster. Check out the S2000 International site for tire commentary in this regard. BTW, what band were you in? Kind Regards, Chris | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 115 Registered: 2-2002 |
I know this may sound stupid but I am trying not to get too radical of a tread design while keeping to as high as performance as possible. The S-03's and neros seem to be what I had in mind but the S-02's Goodyear F1 etc have the modern looking tread. I am going back to the stock style wheel for the same reason, that is to keep some repect for the original design and style. That said I am a driver and enthusiast so whatever is best I will probably pick. Being a broke ex-rocker money is a problem but after $2500 for wheels $500 for painting $600 new bolts $80 valve stems money is not really my priority here but performance, dry grip and handling. I am more confused now and may need group intervention. The new Pirelli Neros are so new there is not much feedback on them, but many of you have firmly stated a preference for the S-03's. What about the Expedia S-01's or RE-730's?? I have a couple of weeks while i service the car so I am still open to persuasion! thanks to all who responded rob | ||
| Dan Watkins (Dan360)
New member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2003 |
Autocar (UK weekly car mag) just did a tyre test (maybe about 5-6 weeks ago) of high performance tyres - on an M3. The Pirelli P-Zero Nero won by miles over the the competition for everything wet and dry apart from road noise (!). I believe that Bridgestone chose not to field the S03 and that their general comment was that the S03 had been reviewed poorly in comparison to the previous S02s. I had S02's on my Porsche boxster, but have Pirellis on my 360. Its easier to slide the 360 in the wet, but that's mostly 400 vs 200 horsepower! I can dig out the article (from the bathroom...) if you want. Dan | ||
| Chris F. (Chrisfromri)
New member Username: Chrisfromri Post Number: 15 Registered: 1-2003 |
Robert, I agree with Brian about the nature of high grip tires. These are all very good tires. The plain S-02 in the stock sizes are only four dollars more for each tire than the Pole Position S-03 (TireRack), and they will indeed wear out a little sooner. Accordingly, there is a higher cost of ownership of the plain S-02. However, considering that like me you don't care as much about wear or rain performance, and you want maximum dry road performance, you should make sure to check out the plain S-02. I currently have them on two pretty spirited sports cars, in OEM sizes on OEM wheels, and feel they drive great on both cars. Kind Regards, Chris | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 213 Registered: 3-2002 |
The higher grip the tire, the more you will notice road imperfections. People complaining about that are IMO non-sportscar-drivers... the same people that prefer the softer, more insulated ride of a Lexus over the sporty ride of a BMW. Since I drive R-compound tires on my Ferrari, and had R-compounds on my M3 before the SO3's, the SO3's certainly don't seem to have any issue with tracking road imperfections in comparison. But then, I am annoyed if I go over a road imperfection and I do NOT feel it through the steering wheel... I *expect* to get that feel of the road from my car and tires. | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 114 Registered: 2-2002 |
Thanks for the input, On the Tire Rack site many complained that the S-03 exhibited tracking problems and tended to wander during road imperfections etc. It is hard to ignore those consistant complaints. Have any of you had this problem. I drive only in the dry (it only rains about 3 times a year here) and drive about 1000 miles a year, so wet and tread wear are not factors. Rob | ||
| Chris F. (Chrisfromri)
New member Username: Chrisfromri Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2003 |
I'm using the Bridgestone Potenza S-02 (plain, not Pole Position) tires on my 308 GTB QV in the original equipment sizes: 205/55/16 & 225/50/16. They drive and feel great -- just like they do on my S2000 Roadster which coincidentally uses the exact same original equipment tire sizes, and comes from the factory with the S-02 tires. The "Pole Position" concept is a rubber compound compromise to obtain longer tire life at the expense of dry road grip. IMO an unacceptable tradeoff for either my Ferrari or my Honda... Kind Regards, Chris | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 761 Registered: 5-2001 |
I just bought SO3's for my 308QV also. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 182 Registered: 2-2003 |
S-03s, for sure!! | ||
| ctk (Ctk)
Junior Member Username: Ctk Post Number: 78 Registered: 7-2001 |
LOL Brian, very succintly put. Couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2002 |
I have had both. The SO3's are better in the dry. The SO3's are waayyyy better in the wet. The SO3's are better on the track. The SO3's hold up better to hard driving. The SO3's last longer. The Pirelli's do nothing well in comparison. | ||
| Norman (Storminnormin)
Junior Member Username: Storminnormin Post Number: 82 Registered: 7-2002 |
S03 | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 396 Registered: 4-2002 |
I like my S03s | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3106 Registered: 8-2002 |
S03  | ||
| ctk (Ctk)
Junior Member Username: Ctk Post Number: 77 Registered: 7-2001 |
Go for the Bridgestone S03. They last alot longer. If you use the car for the road only, the wet weather grip of the Bridgestones are a lot less hard stopping as well. The Pirellis are superb dry road tyres but you don't get much mileage out of them. There's also a matter of price difference. | ||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 113 Registered: 2-2002 |
I am trying to decide which tire to put on my QV 16" (Thanks Dave Handa!) refurbished rims on my gt4. I am trying to stay away from to radical looking of a tread design and have decided to choose one of these tires. Does anyone have any experience at all with either ya or nay? Thanks in advance |