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Heiko (Hgparts)
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Username: Hgparts

Post Number: 32
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 1:21 pm:   

by the way most bearing on the ferrari are from skf but you cant buy all when you go there but some a lot cheaper then they are offert from ferrari

heiko
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Heiko (Hgparts)
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 1:13 pm:   

hi jens

the light are EUR1100 for both but to check the price for sure i have to wait when i get back looks like to expensive. i have an older list and ferrari made a new price update

heiko
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 377
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:53 am:   

Gerrit,

That�s interesting since Ton told me that he also comes from Amsterdam :-)

Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Gerrit Visser (Gerritv)
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Post Number: 176
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 11:38 am:   

Hi Jens
Ton and I haven't checked yet to see if we are related. I was born in Amsterdam, moved to Canada in 1957. I now speak Dutch with a Canadian accent :-) My dad's family is from Delft and Rotterdam, his mother was from Belgium.
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 373
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 4:19 am:   

Ton and Gerrit,

By the way: Seems to me that all people who are named Visser drive Ferraris :-) :-) :-)
Gerrit,
Are you also from the Netherlands like Ton?



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller



P.S. This is not an online family meeting, is it? :-)
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 372
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 4:16 am:   

Heiko,

Great so I don�t need to ask anymore!
By the way: Do you know how much the front fog lights for a 512TR are?
I need the price for the part numbers 149032 and 149033. Seems to be a housing and the glass.


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Gerrit Visser (Gerritv)
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Username: Gerritv

Post Number: 171
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 6:49 pm:   

Hi Ton
Front header on a 308GT4 is max 1.5 hours to remove. That includes draining the fuel, removing the RH tank with associated hoses, etc. Admittedly it took me 5+ hours the first time but after the 3rd time it gets easier :-(
On 308GT4 you don't have to even remove the alternator, might be tighter on a 328 though. The header nuts are indeed difficult but once the tank is removed then they are accesible using a half moon wrench and 3/8 sockets with various lengths of extenders. All the nuts are 13mm. My header was welded up twice, each time 3 hours max including cutting pipe section out, bending and fittng new piece and then welding. (This time I am getting a new header from Superformance, not worth fixing the old one again)
Re: the bearings, if one goes, replace both sides as others have indicated. Once the bearings are out, go to FAG or SKF distributor and get exact replacements.

Groeten
Heiko (Hgparts)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 5:59 pm:   

hey jens

did you forgot about me what im doing here?
well the price should be EUR300 for each one for more i have to check to make sure. maybe could buy direct from the manufacter
heiko
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 371
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 5:32 pm:   

Ton,

Again it�s me. If you don�t want to phone Rosenmeyer I could ask Maranello Motors about the 328 ball bearings price tomorrow. I have to figure out some things with them (Perhaps I just drive over with the 348 if weather is as good as today!)and am also asking some fog light prices for a 512TR for a FChat buddy from Hong Kong.
Think I will just ask them so you got a comparison.
Hope you have a pleasant and quiet nightshift.
Till tomorrow...


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller



P.S. Did you see the front picture of the Bluemel book? Geez, the 328 really looks gorgeous photographed head on!
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Post Number: 369
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 5:16 pm:   

Ton,

Again I have to express my opinion of not thinking that you are ripped of by the mechanic. Original Ferrari parts are not available for 14$. In fact you don�t even get a lame smile from an official Ferrari mechanic for $14 (Sorry for my cynicism again but sadly it�s true!). Nevertheless I would recommend again to call Rosenmeyer for official price. The independent mechanic should still be a little cheaper after all. If not you could as well go directly to Garage Franchorchamps, or not?



Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Username: 91tr

Post Number: 1530
Registered: 1-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 4:52 pm:   

Ton -- Your 328 uses the more-complex (and probably lower volume) later double-row single ball bearing; whereas, the $14 version is the (mega-volume) tapered cylindrical roller bearing and that's if you get it directly from a bearing supplier or a US auto supply store (i.e., you've got to know the manf size/part no. -- they're more $ from the discount F parts suppliers). Not that that justifies the $400 price each you mentioned -- FerrariUK shows your 328 bearings for 177.4 GBP each retail (I so look forward to the day where more F parts supplier have websites with e-catalogs and posted prices that you can e-shop!)
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   

$14 US for a ball-bearing/wheel? Then why must I pay $400 each?

I guess there is still a lot to learn.

Ton
JRV (Jrvall)
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Username: Jrvall

Post Number: 1148
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 8:26 am:   

>>I think it would take at least 9 to 12 hours if things went reasonably easily.<<

Actually that's about what I calculated (approx. 6 + 4 + 1or2), having done quite a few 308's. Maybe this was their first one?


Of course that extra 8 hrs is almost the price of a good used header = approx $700.00
Verell Boaen (Verell)
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Username: Verell

Post Number: 620
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 10:44 pm:   

DO BOTH WHEELS
308 front wheel bearings are fairly inexpensive items $14 US/wheel from almost any auto parts supplier. I think the 328 uses the same bearings.

If one wheel goes, I figure the other one is close behind, so yes, I'd have both wheels done.

Kinda like doing the brakes. You don't just do 1 wheel.

18 HOURS SOUNDS A TAD HIGH, BUT NOT EXHORBITANTLY SO.
I haven't pulled a 308 manifold, so I'm not claiming to be spot on.
However, pulling the fwd manifold requires draining the gas tanks & pulling the passenger side fuel tank. Also, the manifold bolts aren't exactly accessable. Factor in some of the bolts being seized up. Figure 5-7 ours to get it out, Then 1/2 to 1 hour to rig a clamping jig, weld, & touch-up the weld. and anothe5-7 hours to put it back together. This is probably 'best case'.

I think it would take at least 9 to 12 hours if things went reasonably easily.

The rear manifold isn't much different. I think you've got to pull at least the top suspension wishbone & shock.

I could easily be off on the times, but I usually underestimate how long things take, not over estimate. Email JRV or one of the other listers who has a shop & ask them for a ballpark estimate.
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Post Number: 280
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 2:15 pm:   

I brought the car to a local mechanic with a small business in italian sportscars (Ferrari-Lamborghini- Alfa Romeo- Maserati). Is he really trying to rip me off?

Ton
Heiko (Hgparts)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 2:11 pm:   

hi

where did you put the car to looks like they want to rip you of

heiko
hgparts
Ton Visser (Lion315)
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Username: Lion315

Post Number: 277
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 1:53 pm:   

Hi guys,

I need some help. My mechanic called to tell me that the right ball bearing of my 328 is defect. He suggests changing both the bearings at the front. Is it normal to change both bearings when only one has a problem? He also reported that he worked 18 hrs (?) to weld a crack in one of the manifolds! He said that it is a lot of work to remove the manifold. Is this true?

regards,

Ton

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