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| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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I use a big ass hammer and a 2x4 to tighten and remove mine as to not mar the chrome. | ||
| Sam NYCFERRARIS (Sam)
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Herb is right, the KOs on my XKE's wire wheels are the same design -- they get tighter with the foward direction of travel..nothing, and I mean nothing is as impressive as giving that chromed eared Knock - off hub a single firm blow with the hammer and having it spin right off the hub for a quick wheel change...then again if you miss...it can be very depressive! | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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William, you are the first person now to mention using this kit (see my previous posting below Herbert's Corvair drawing, on Aug 17th). So you find it works well? I'm curious to know the quality of welding on the extension piece (I'm a welder and love to critique other people's work). | ||
| William Badurski (Billb)
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In my experience, the problem with knock-off wheels is undertorque. These go to 325 ft lb on a Ferrari, which is a lot of hammering. I used an 8 pound rawhide mallet, which worked well. However, the best thing I've found is the kit from Stainless Steel Brake Company. It comes with either the three-ear socket or octagonal one. You also get an adapter bar to allow use of a 1/2" drive torque wrench set to 178 ft lb to achieve the 325 spec. Bill Badurski Technical Chairman- FCA | ||
| Magoo (Magoo)
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Yeah, The adaptor nut or KO will only fit the side it is intended for anyway. As you said they are threaded so they tighten while driving. Depending who is tightening the KOs,with a lead hammer, means a lot on whether they loosen or not. I have seen those bad boys loosen up if they were not tightened properly with a lead hammer. They look great. Magoo | ||
| Magoo (Magoo)
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Yeah, The adaptor nut or KO will only fit the side it is intended for anyway. As you said they are threaded so they tighten while driving. Depending who is tightening the KOs,with a lead hammer, means a lot on whether they loosen or not. I have seen those bad boys loosen up if they were not tightened properly with a lead hammer. They look great. Magoo | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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Here is a picture of the Corvair assembly manual of the wire wheel instructions.  | ||
| 1975 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Has anyone tried yet on their TR's and other knock-off-wheeled Ferraris, the socket and torque-bar extension that is advertised in every issue of the FCA Newsbulletin (by Stainless Steel Brakes Corp.)? | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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No, there is no locking device, however the direction that they turn causes them to get tighter as you drive and I have never had any problems. You just have to make sure you always use the correct adapter hub on the correct side of the car. It says that they torque to 400 ft.lbs. which is the equivalent to eight hard blows with the lead hammer after hand tightning. | ||
| Magoo (Magoo)
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Herb, are they made with pins to hold the KO's in place or some other safety device? I know that a exact replica of the Vette wheel was made in later years with a pin locking set up on the KO. Much safer. MAGOO | ||
| Herbert Edward Gault (Irfgt)
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The Corvair had the Kelsey-Hayes knock off wires as an option from 1962-1964 and discontinued them in 1965. However I got the pictures of the original proposed 1965 design wheel that was to be put into production before the option was cancelled and had Dayton wheels to produce me a one off set for my 65 Corvair which now has genuine knock off wheels. | ||
| Magoo (Magoo)
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Bill, G.M. did the same thing with the Corvette. Last year for KOs was 66. The reason, too dangerous. I know I've had experience with them. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Bill S -- I think the main reason Ferrari (wisely) returned to the conventional 5-lug pattern on TRs is a safety issue -- Losing one of the wheel fasteners from a 5-lug design is a lot safer than losing one from a single-lug design (you don't ever want to see one of your own wheels pass you going down the road). It's also a lot easier to correctly torque five normal-sized hex wheel fasteners to 60~80 ft-lbs rather than one odd-ball, large octagon fastener to 300+ ft-lbs. The value of the single-lug TRs (rightly) suffer significantly from these issues relative to the later 5-lug TRs IMHO. | ||
| bill shumaker (Gabriel)
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Greetings: What's the concensus on the forum re. the TR single lug vs. the tradional lug pattern found on the newer TRs? Which is better? -Bill |