| Author | Message | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3405 Registered: 8-2002 |
Gotcha Rob  No sweat. | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Member Username: Me_k Post Number: 453 Registered: 5-2002 |
I think there was some really good info on the supject in previous threads. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/199158.html I think Paul Sloan has the shocks from italian design and is happy with them. I spoke to butch when I was looking at shocks, but I wasn't sold they were really what I was looking for. Rob(rexrcr) offers bilsteins for about the same price and they are very good shocks. For more money there are more choices, I've been very happy the the ohlins I have, there is simply no comparison to stock handling. | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 450 Registered: 11-2002 |
BTW, I agree that if you're 100% street, stay stock, unless you really are that sensitive and want a bit better balance, then small adjustments will go a long way toward improving the street driving experience. | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 449 Registered: 11-2002 |
Matt, my post does not refer to your post. I try to quote when I'm responding to someone other than the original post. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I am just stating that my recommendations are founded in valid engineering and testing, not opinion or hearsay (which, in general, we see alot of on FC when dealing with engineered systems). Basically, if one reads my previous post on this subject, one will see that I agree with higher spring rates in the front, and actually advocate a much larger difference. I also explain how to compare one chassis from another using wheel rate rather than spring rate. Ride frequency is actually best, but requires further explanation. It's all good  | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3391 Registered: 8-2002 |
Terry, I describe it more as a pregnant pig. Matt | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
New member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 16 Registered: 3-2003 |
Terry, If you're going to use the car on the street only, the change to 16 inch wheels and tires will return a lot of value. Keep in mind that by losing two inches in wheel diameter, you are replacing rubber sidewall with cast alloy. This translates into a much harsher ride. Add the shocks and springs and you might as well get a mouthpiece like football players have so you can keep your teeth from chipping. If you're dead set on chucking the stock OEM Konis, I'll give you $50.00 apiece for them. Good Luck with the project ;-) | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 426 Registered: 4-2002 |
Don, The stock suspension settings were designed for 14" wheels and relatively hard compound 205/70 tires. While all this was probably the "hot" setup in 1977.... today it gives a car for which the handling is best described as a PIG. My 308 is in really great shape, and will soon be running perfectly. I want it to handle GREAT and be quicker through the twisties. It wont have tons of power (though I bet it will still embarras the QV boys;) but it should handle well. I have a hotrod '69 911S. The suspension is upgraded along with the tires. It will blow any stock setup 911 away.... including many new models with double the hp. | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3388 Registered: 8-2002 |
Rob, Recommending someone to keep the stock suspension is not "conjecture" Matt | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 447 Registered: 11-2002 |
Terry, do a search for this subject. You will come up with my specific recommendations posted a couple months ago. My suggestions are not guess and conjecture, they come from testing and experience. | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3386 Registered: 8-2002 |
I'd stick with the OEM Koni's and OEM or like rated springs. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 425 Registered: 4-2002 |
While I have my 308 all torn apart, Im thinking of making the project even larger... I have a set of the 16" repro wheels coming (soon I hope) and will be mounting 225/50 front and 245/45 rear tires. I know this alone will be a huge improvement in handling, but I am also considering upgrading the springs and shocks. Italian Design sells a set of 4 springs and Alden shocks for $1500 which seems pretty dang reasonable. The shocks are adjustable on the car for bump and rebound. You can choose what spring rates front and rear you want to run. The gentleman I spoke with said most people run for a streetcar 300 front and 250lb rear springs. I thought this strange, it seems you would run a stiffer spring in the rear? Anyone have any experience with these? They do allow adjustable ride height which would be nice.... What spring rates should I go with? Is this upgrade even necessary or useful for a car that is unlikely to ever see track use? (I have a 911 for that) All opinions are appreciated! |