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Anthony A. (Yank05)
Junior Member
Username: Yank05
Post Number: 145
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 9:43 am: | |
If anyone has some pics of their early carb 308's undercarriage, that would be great!
Thank You,
Anthony |
Anthony A. (Yank05)
Junior Member
Username: Yank05
Post Number: 144
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 9:34 am: | |
No, Sean, I am not talking about the blue '77 GTB at Forza. Why?
Also, I spoke with many well-known Ferrari body shops and they all told me that the frames (I am not talking about body panels) were hand sprayed, drips are common, and they are not surprised that the steel access panel has some black chassis overspray on it. The frame of the car I am looking at does not indicate any evidence of an accident and there is no color discrepancy in the black paint on the frame - it is all dull and old looking.
Thanks,
Anthony |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Member
Username: Arlie
Post Number: 968
Registered: 5-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 7:36 pm: | |
As long as we're talking undercarriages, does anybody have a photo or diagram of a 308 bare chassis? I've seen a zillion photos of the car and engine, but none of the bare frame itself. (no, I don't have stacks of Ferrari manuals or I would look for it myself.) I've often wondered about the overall rigidity of the frame considering that some cars had full roofs (GTB), some targas (GTS), as well as some spyder conversions.
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Sean F (Agracer)
Junior Member
Username: Agracer
Post Number: 84
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 4:08 pm: | |
Are you looking at the Blue GTB at Forza? |
peter james moran (Pjm)
New member
Username: Pjm
Post Number: 41
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:26 pm: | |
There should be NO overspray. I have done repair work on mine and looked at many original 308s. They are clean from the factory and overspray is an indicator of repair or at a minimum sloppy detailing attempts. They can indeed be a little rough and not perfectly straight from the factory and I have also noted on cars of identical years differences in painted areas of a car. Example: Euro model QVs may or may not be black on windshield pillars, black only on lower part of sill and other "optional" decisions made at the factory. |
Bill V (Doc)
Member
Username: Doc
Post Number: 275
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 10:15 am: | |
Anthony--While I can't identify any runs /drips on my undercarriage, there is a mix of paint and fairly sloppy undercoating all over the place. A lot of car guys, like myself, do their own undercarriage spraying and aren't particularly careful as none of the undercarriage shows. I wouldn't necessarily assume that that means that the car in an accident |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3612
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 7:33 pm: | |
Hans,
the thick stuff is oil
Matt |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1045
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 7:29 pm: | |
Everything under my car is painted, and on the frame itself, it is, uh, a little thick in places. As in runs and drips. |
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member
Username: 308gtb
Post Number: 475
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
No overspray on mine either.
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"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3591
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 4:29 pm: | |
Mine is all original and I have no overspray. |
Anthony A. (Yank05)
Junior Member
Username: Yank05
Post Number: 143
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 4:28 pm: | |
Matt,
did you notice any overspray on the piece of sheet steel on the underside of the car toward the front?
Thanks |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3590
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 4:25 pm: | |
DOH!!
They are hand painted. |
Anthony A. (Yank05)
Junior Member
Username: Yank05
Post Number: 142
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 4:10 pm: | |
he meant the chassis itself was painted by hand not the chassis number |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3587
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 3:52 pm: | |
"but my mechanic noted the chassis was painted by hand at the factory"
NO!!!
They are stamped in on the pass side engine bay near the rear shock and on a plate on the driverside door jam
There should be no overspray.
Ferrari's are made like crap, but not at Bondo Bob "we do insurance work" Auto Body |
Anthony A. (Yank05)
Junior Member
Username: Yank05
Post Number: 141
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 04, 2003 - 3:12 pm: | |
During a pre-purchase inspection of a '77 308, I looked underneath the vehicle while it was on a lift. I noticed that when the black chassis paint dried it left drip marks on the bottom of each frame member. Also, the sheet steel covering under the floor pan had black overspray on it. Since this was my first time actually underneath a 308, I got worried and thought the car might have been in an accident and someone had poorly repainted the frame, but my mechanic noted the chassis was painted by hand at the factory and these drip marks/overspray marks were normal.
Do your cars exhibit the same thing I described?
Thank you,
Anthony
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