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Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member
Username: Questioner
Post Number: 331
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
Rob,
Larry's other links are:
http://rennlist.com/oil Test results
http://rennlist.com/webercarbs Weber tuning info
And as Michael said.
www.youroil.net Oil analysis kit
His contact info is:
[email protected]
I hope this helps. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1096
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:24 pm: | |
Rob:
There seems to be a lot of sources for oil analysis, but I use Larry Turner. REAL nice guy. If you're a wuss like me, order the kit with the bellows - you just suck the sample out of the dipstick, rather than trying to capture oil draining out the plug. Total no-brainer, as the suction bellows, hose, pre-addressed mailer, and everything else is included.
See:
www.youroil.net -- Order a Oil Analysis Kit!!
also:
http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ -- Test Results
http://members.rennlist.com/oiluse -- Oil Consumption Data
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Heiko (Hgparts)
Junior Member
Username: Hgparts
Post Number: 79
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:21 pm: | |
hi
check KN33-2069 they should work for the 512TR.
by the way
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365 GT4/BB 1973-76 E-2960
308 (GT4, GTB, GTS) E-2930
Mondial 8 33-2019
308 33-2019
512 BBi 33-2019
Mondial QV 33-2518
308 QV 33-2518
Testarossa 33-2799
288 GTO 33-2019
Mondial 3.2 33-2518
328 33-2518
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Mondial t 33-2656
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F50 33-2811
456/456M 33-2816
550 Maranello 33-2816
for more info just email me
heiko
hgparts
sponsor of the ferrari.chat |
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member
Username: Questioner
Post Number: 330
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:18 pm: | |
Rob,
You can go to the Ferrarilist. There is a man there named Larry Turner who does them. He has posted a couple of results on the "List" at different times. I will try to find his URL but I am sure if you just go on and ask for him, he will contact you. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member
Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 434
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:14 pm: | |
Rob: Oil analysis is well worth doing. I also found too much gasoline in my oil (and you could smell it too) that way. My car is a QV, pointing to a couple of injectors that needed replacing.
Check out http://youroil.net/
That's where I had mine done... the owner, Larry Turner, is very helpful.
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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 402
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:00 pm: | |
William, if you call K+N and give them the dimensions of the filter you need, they will make it for you. No difference in cost also. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4357
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 1:52 pm: | |
where can you have this oil analysis done? |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1094
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:58 pm: | |
I had an oil analysis done at 2400 miles on my K&N equipped carb car using Mobil 1 15W50. I don't have the numbers at hand, but it showed very little contamination of any kind, except fuel. Damn Webers.
I don't have the analysis at my fingertips, but note that Mobil 1 shows an odd "contamination" of Boron and Magnesium. I thought it was just me until I looked at a table of analysis results, and the same "contamination" showed up for everyone using Mobil 1. Probably just part of their additive package. Silicon (dirt) was very low. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4351
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 3:11 am: | |
Ben, what are you doing up this late? Umm, what am I doing up this late, I'm two hours ahead of you. Oh yea, working on FC.
I think without a doubt that a K&N protects more than no air filter at all, however, I agree that the air isn't as clean. The question is whether it's significant enough with frequent oil changes to not use a K&N.
Have you done more oil analysis. I knew you did this before, but you only had a couple samples and wanted to do some more tests. |
Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Intermediate Member
Username: Benjet
Post Number: 1098
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:30 am: | |
Rob,
next time do a dyno run with NO air filter, wonder how close the K&N comes to that. You already know my opinion.
-Ben
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Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4349
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 2:18 am: | |
Yes, I think I'll take more advantage of it as I think I'm running a little lean now. Does this adjust automatically in a 328 or does my mechanic need to do it? |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 586
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:10 pm: | |
I have used K&N on four different cars and one motorcyle. I have found little difference other than some intake noise. With my carb 308 and motorcycle, rejetting did make a noticeable improvement.
Both, my 328 and a friend's dyno'd at 214.5 and 212 respectively with K&N's and Tubi's. His also had a cat test pipe. |
Dave Goldman (Dave328)
Junior Member
Username: Dave328
Post Number: 118
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 6:13 pm: | |
I have one on my 88 328. I have not put it on a dyno but I can tell the difference by the "seat of my pants". At our local track I found myself shifting up a good 20 feet earlier on the front straight and carrying about 5-7 mph more into turn 1 after putting in the K&N than before with the UFI stocker. The car seems to tach up quicker, although I'm sure the Tubi has alot to do with that as well!
Dave |
William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member
Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2225
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 5:20 pm: | |
I installed 1 in a chevy suburban I used to own & immediately saw the power curve drop 200rpm so that power would kick in sooner. had 1 in my mitsu VR4 as well and liked it there too. Too bad they dont make them for the 512TR or I would use them there also |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4344
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:46 am: | |
I agree, not seat of the pants noticable, although the sound changed with a little more intake noise. I like the sound, almost a little whistle like a turbo. The dyno shows real gains though. |
Mark (Markg)
Member
Username: Markg
Post Number: 438
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:43 am: | |
I have had K&N Air Filters in my '69 911, '72 240Z, 82 308 GTSi and Hyundai Accent. Did not notice one iota of differnce in performance in any car but the Hyundai. Gains just may not feel as noticable in higher performance cars .... |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4342
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:36 am: | |
Rob Lay's 1986 328 GTS
rear wheels...
- 218.8 hp 186.0 torque (stock air filter)
- 228.4 hp 190.4 torque (K&N air filter)
16% loss factor...
- 260.5 hp 221.4 torque (stock air filter)
- 271.9 hp 226.7 torque (K&N air filter)
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Michael Vaughan (Vanimal)
New member
Username: Vanimal
Post Number: 21
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:19 am: | |
I am considering putting in an K&N airfilter on my 348 challenge, anyone done this yet and had it dyno'd before and after?? what type of gain should I expect? I plan to dyno my car sometime next week and will post the graph here. |