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Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 391
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 9:04 pm: | |
Tom,
>>> All these spec are from Keith Blumels book Original Ferrari V8.<<<
DOH!!!!!!! i have that book and stupid me never thought of looking in it. DOH DOH!!! And here i was searching through all my service manuals and MANY other Ferrari factory bits i have here.
DOH DOH DOH i feel like a dunce!
Enjoy the Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 390
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 9:00 pm: | |
Tom and Rob,
Many many many many many thanks!!!!!! ALL help is ALWAYS greatly appreciated.
Enjoy the Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Ulf Modig (Ulf308qv)
Junior Member
Username: Ulf308qv
Post Number: 67
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 8:57 pm: | |
Rob, will the settings you suggested be OK for a 85 GTB as well? |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 558
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 7:42 pm: | |
quote:Front toe-in 0.2-1.2mm
Front camber -0.10 to +0.10 degrees
Rear toe-in 4-5mm
Rear camber -1.05 to -1.25 degrees
I added the decimal points for camber. IMO, these specs will be great for street driving, but will guarantee understeer. Set front camber to -0.50 to -0.80 degrees for better turn-in, improved front grip, but you'll have to pay a bit more attention. |
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member
Username: Tbakowsky
Post Number: 361
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 6:00 pm: | |
O.k. Steve
These are stock measurements but they should be o.k. for your application.
Front toe-in 0.2-1.2mm
Front camber -0 10 to +0 10 degrees
Rear toe-in 4-5mm
Rear camber -1 05 to -1 25 degrees.
All settings are applicable to a car in static condition: full tank of gas 2 persons in the car and 20kg of luggage. All these spec are from Keith Blumels book Orginal Ferrari V8. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 662
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 2:25 pm: | |
Well, I'll be dipped...
KTR has been in the next town over as long as I've lived in Groton!. I've never heard of them,
and must have driven past them dozens of times!
They must keep a low profile, or else are just known in certain exclusive circles...
I'll have to stop in sometime & look them over. |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 389
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:57 pm: | |
FOUND IT! Well... sorta. Wish i had the EXACT specs given my chassis and tire. Anyone? Anyone? Behuler? Behuler? Behuler?
http://ferrari.stevejenkins.com/bulletins/00-8.pdf |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 388
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:35 pm: | |
Thanks guys, alas, made an appt at a semi-local place that does sports car already, but WIL keep the others in mind as i'll need a 60k mjr this fall. Anyone have the exact specs for alignment??? Been looking through my books briefly and have not found them. Will call FNA or whomever if need be.
Enjoy the Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 1005
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:12 pm: | |
steven - you might want to check these guys out: http://www.ktrmotorsports.com/, they're in Ayer MA - near the NH border.
they've come up on this board before, but nobody seemed to have any data on them.
it turns out, a friend of mine knows them well and speaks very highly of them. the owner and my friend used to be next door neighbors in sudbury ma. my friend isn't a ferrari guy, but apparently KTR has done good work on his early XKE and on his 1950s MGB.
doody. |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 556
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 12:08 pm: | |
The specifications if stated in mm for toe, can easily be converted to larger wheels. Camber and castor are not wheel size dependent.
This is why I like toe specs in degrees and minutes, then wheel diameter is not in the equation.
I have also heard Boston Sportscar is good. It's owned by FNA's former Technical Director. |
Thomas Saupe (Tom_s)
New member
Username: Tom_s
Post Number: 35
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:56 am: | |
Boston Sportscar in Weston, MA can do the job for you. |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 386
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:21 am: | |
Rob,
Great advice and MANY MANY thanks!!! Still.. i need help. Have the full service manuals, etc but... My car is a Euro and came with those dreaded metric tires... Right now i have 225/50 ZR16 Kuhmo Supra tires on Etiole rims. One side is great, the other is not. Maybe they can datamine the specs from one side and use it for the other? BUT... if anyone has the EXACT specs that would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
SPECS PLEASE. PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP AND A CHERRY.
Enjoy the Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member
Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 554
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:10 am: | |
Technically, you want a "thrust alignment" which aligns all wheels in relationship to each other.
Any shop with modern equipment can do this. My suggestion is to check them out first for cleanliness and friendliness, perhaps experience with C5 Corvettes who have finicky owners and low ground clearance.
BTW, I built special ramps to accommodate the low ride heights and approach angles of Ferraris for the alignment rack at my former employ.
Ferrari does make specific shims for alignment, but even though I like them better than what is typically available at a tire store, what the tire store has will most likely work fine.
Obtaining a copy of your chassis factory wheel alignment specifications may also be helpful, though usually just for verification, as a modern alignment machine will have Ferrari data too.
One key to attention to detail of the shop is if they add driver weight to the car while aligning. |
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Member
Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 384
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 7:46 am: | |
Hi Everyone,
First, MANY THANKS VERELL for showing me how to change my oil. All went well and the UFI reached oil pressure MUCH faster than the Baldwin. On to the subject at hand... Seems my right rear is wearing faster than the left. Verell said it is not differential, so i need an alignment. Who is in Southern NH or thereabouts that can do rear end alignment. Suggestions? contact names/ph numbers? ALL help is ALWAYS appreciated.
Enjoy the Drive,
Steven R. Rochlin
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