| Author | Message | ||
| William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 175 Registered: 6-2001 |
Tom, That's more like it. Looks great. Is that by any chance 16937, my old car? | ||
| Tom Jones (Ferrarioldman)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarioldman Post Number: 119 Registered: 6-2002 |
Here is a picture of one that I just put back together with rebuilt shocks. The spring pads are practically new as are the shock bushings.  | ||
| Dr. Mike Adams (Drmike)
New member Username: Drmike Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2002 |
Maybe it's the difference between a full and empty tank ? A Daytona holds almost 35 gallons. That's +/-220lbs right over the rear wheels. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 493 Registered: 4-2002 |
Well, I drove a different car today. It has the 9" rear wheels and it does not sit that high in the rear. The rear was a tad higher than the front, but not like the car I originally posted. | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 262 Registered: 5-2002 |
Is it possible that you have larger wheels and tires on the back? I have two daytonas, neither looks jacked up just like that except when I put a larger set of wheels and tires on. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 491 Registered: 4-2002 |
Frank, Check your work email. If youve left for the day email me Terry | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2281 Registered: 9-2001 |
I think the rear height looks correct. You may have just seen a lot of other Daytonas out there that had bad rear springs that made them sit too low. Also, with the weight of a driver and fuel I suspect the rear will drop a little anyway. Have a PPI done and see what turns up. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1603 Registered: 8-2002 |
If it is a suspension problem, it must be pretty common:      | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 4556 Registered: 8-2002 |
They both look "ass up"   | ||
| Malcolm Barksdale (Malcolmb)
New member Username: Malcolmb Post Number: 32 Registered: 4-2002 |
I just measured the distance from the floor to the high point of the wheelarches on mine. 27 1/8 rear, 26 7/8 front. Mine looks almost level. So, maybe 1/4 inch difference. | ||
| Malcolm Barksdale (Malcolmb)
New member Username: Malcolmb Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2002 |
I just measured the distance from the floor to the high point of the wheelarches on mine. 27 1/8 rear, 26 7/8 front. Mine looks almost level. So, maybe 1/4 inch difference. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 489 Registered: 4-2002 |
I did speak with Mike about it before posting. He said its not sitting any higher than its supposed to and there is nothing incorrect about the suspension. To me, this is in conflict with the photos of this car and other similar cars on his website. Im actually not concerned as I may have located a better car locally anyhow.... well see  | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1594 Registered: 8-2002 |
Malcolm is right. Just give Mike a call and let him know what your concerns are. He'll tell you straight up whether or not the rear end is sitting higher than normal and why. Same as Matt, I'm local and wouldn't mind checking the car out for you (I'm not a mechanic), but can't make it down there until Tuesday. | ||
| Malcolm Barksdale (Malcolmb)
New member Username: Malcolmb Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2002 |
Why not ask Mike, he knows Daytonas as well as anyone, better than most. I have dealt with him twice and been treated fairly.There is some problem though, it sits too high as you noted. Why not keep looking, there are a lot of Daytonas out there. See FML. This one looks nice except as noted, Mike is even showing that the unobtainable rear reflectors are nice. | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 345 Registered: 2-2002 |
I find it hard to believe that someone would offer a car for sale without doing some simple maintenance first. If the shocks are in fact bad, you have to ask yourself what else does this car need, and what else has been ignored in terms of service. While the seller is a well known Ferrari broker, this car appears to have some issues just from the picture. God only knows what a PPI will reveal. Good luck on your search for a Daytona. They are a great car. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2002 |
LOL JVR.... point taken! | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3550 Registered: 9-2001 |
There is some very good info/histories on daytonas, I would contact Bill B or Gerard R for any info he might have on this car | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1419 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>but I have seen spring perches not properly located after major body restoration.<< Uhhhh...I suppose anything is possible...;-).. I try to confine my judgements and guesses within the bounds of reasonable likelyhoods based on years of first hand experience...;-).. if it does turn out to be upper perches located wrong, or maybe two different cars cut in half and welded back together by a one eyed carpenter in his back yard using wobbly saw horses as his frame machine let us know...;-). | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 487 Registered: 4-2002 |
I tend to agree JRV, but I have seen spring perches not properly located after major body restoration. Think rusted out floors and bulkheads repaired without a proper jig... I have also seen cars sit too high when new springs are installed. Usually due to poor quality springs or rubber grommets that are too thick. If its sticking shocks... no big deal. If its misaligned suspension following major body rust repair, well thats is a big deal. Of coarse I have no idea how likely this is because Im not that familiar with Daytona construction. | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1415 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>There has to be some spring or body issue causing it. << The only thing I can think of that would make the rear of a Daytona sit to high (if it's not an optical illusion) is frozen rear shocks. Same on all the older models, including 308's. If the shocks are freezing up (from to many years of just sitting) and the car is raised on a jack or hoist, allowing the wheels to drop, then lowered, if the shocks are no good they can stay extended, making the car sit to high. A simple look and drive would tell the story. But bad shocks on a 30 year old car would be no big surprise...;-) | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 486 Registered: 4-2002 |
I dont believe its an optical illusion as it sits too high no matter which direction its pointed on the slope. There has to be some spring or body issue causing it. Anyhow, I will talk to Sheehan more about it. Im VERY early in any serious looking stage, but this cars engine upgrades and fresh transaxle make it appealing. Also, the paint issue to me would indicate a price in the low 110's. At least I would never consider paying any more... Daytona values are very tough to guage right now. | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 4509 Registered: 8-2002 |
The car is on a downward slope. it's an optical illusion. Mike Sheehan is not a shill or a fraud. His cars are top notch. Terry, I am not to far from him, If you like I can go over there and take a few pictures of my own. e-mail me @ [email protected] if you want me to. Matt | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 343 Registered: 2-2002 |
Terry: There is something wrong with that car. I have seen lots of Daytona's and none of them sat that high in the rear. I would look for another car. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 485 Registered: 4-2002 |
My E-type may be sold... so I'm thinking about Daytonas again. One that appears interesting is at Michael Sheehans. http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/14173/14173a.html The doors on this car were repainted after some rust repair and are the wrong color. They would need to be painted to match the car. Im more concerned about the rear ride height. It sure appears this car is sitting up too far in the rear. I know Daytonas do normally sit a bit higher in the rear, but not this much. Is this ride height issue something that is easily fixed on a Daytona? The asking price on this car seems a good bit high. Given the paint needs and possible suspension issue, I would offer considerably less. However, it does have a fresh engine and transaxle. |