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Giang Hoang (Spidersense)
New member
Username: Spidersense
Post Number: 44
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 1:30 pm: | |
without the original spark plug tool, i don't know how you would remove the rear bank plugs. i mean, the original tool 1. fits over the plugs 2. has rubber inserts to pull the plug out 3. has a joint to flex way back there.
Using a deep socket, a joint, and some extensions, I am able to loosen the rear plugs, but couldn't figure out a way to get the plug out. pushing tubing to fit over the plug end sounds tough due to the awkward reach and lack of visibility. luckily, i found the socket tool in the tool bag (i try not to use those tools and didn't know it was in there).
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Don McCormick (Dandy_don)
Junior Member
Username: Dandy_don
Post Number: 78
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 10:26 am: | |
Paul,
You might really want to think about buying the special spark plug tool. I just recently started using it (formerly I had used a socket, a short extension and a complicated ritual) and I can now get a spark plug out in about 30 seconds as opposed to 3-4 minutes. It is incredibly easier with the tool. I can't believe that I waited so long to try it. |
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
New member
Username: Ferrari_co_uk
Post Number: 11
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 6:00 am: | |
Thanks Paul,
Russ, unfortunately the pliers aren't available separately we only have the tool roll's in stock...
Regards
Mark |
Russ F (Russf)
Junior Member
Username: Russf
Post Number: 122
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 12:22 pm: | |
Mark I am interested in buying the pliars only. Red handle with the Ferrari name on them. Do you folks sell just the plairs? |
Paul Jeffery (Peajay)
New member
Username: Peajay
Post Number: 41
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 2:03 pm: | |
thanks for the info Mark, I don't think I will be buying the kit, I know some people are nuts about orignality but I am not that bothered, so long as I can get the car fixed.
I really do appreciate you responding with parts info from your company, please continue doing it!!
Paul |
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
New member
Username: Ferrari_co_uk
Post Number: 9
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:40 am: | |
Hi Paul,
We have in stock the plug spanner and the tool roll that come with the car. The prices are �28.60 + VAT for the plug spanner and �132.20 + VAT for the tool roll (containing pliers, spanner and screwdriver sets).
Regards
Mark |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1778
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:27 am: | |
Paul -- you can look up the NGK plug numbers here:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/apps/car_truck_suv/default.asp?nav=60000&country=
(and buy here: http://www.clubplug.net if your local NGK prices are uncompetitive) |
Paul Jeffery (Peajay)
New member
Username: Peajay
Post Number: 40
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:05 am: | |
I am having trouble finding a long 18 mm socket, the standard sizes used for plugs are 16 mm and 21 mm, so maybe I will have to try a specialist tool supplier. What is the alternate NGK number for the 328 engine by the way ?
thanks
Paul |
V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328
Post Number: 110
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 2:47 pm: | |
oh, btw, i usually get NGK plugs at a local motorcycle dealer, as these seem to be more of a cycle thing than 'car' plugs. |
V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member
Username: Ama328
Post Number: 109
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
Paul, the easy way to do the forward bank of plugs is with a long 18mm socket, short extension, a small palm ratchet, and some rubber hose:
Removal:
* put socket into spark plug well by itself.
* insert short extension, connect with socket.
* connect palm socket, but you usually don't have
to connect it fully all the way, just a bit into
the extension so you can turn it.
* after loosening the plug, remove all of the
above and insert a piece of hose that has an
inside diameter that'll fit over the top end of
the plug. I use fuel line hose, 4-8 inches
or so, and even cut/split the end a bit so i
could get it to fit snugly over the plug.
Is now easy to finish unscrewing and to remove.
Install:
to install, use the hose to lightly lower the plug
into the well and to start threading it in.
Then you can use the socket, etc. to finish
it up.
Maybe not the best explanation, but once you get
it, is quite easy. Usually takes me all of 5-10
minutes to swap plugs out on the front bank,
once I have everything ready to go. |
Paul Jeffery (Peajay)
New member
Username: Peajay
Post Number: 37
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 9:08 am: | |
I don't really think I need new plugs yet either, but I want to remove the pligs so that I can turn the engine more easily to do the timing and valve clearances.
Mark you said to use an 18mm socket, but it needs to be a long one of course to fit over the plug, do they exist in 18mm ?? |
John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Member
Username: Johndelvac
Post Number: 366
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 9:06 pm: | |
I went & bought plugs thinking I was going to change them one time. If I remember correctly, the Champion plugs are for a lawnmower or tractor engine. What is this thing - a Lambo? LOL
Anyway - yes, the plug size was very small, like a 1/2 inch. It was not metric.
After trying the first one I said "this is rediculous" and quit. My car won't need new plugs for 32,000 miles more. |
Mark Foley (Sparky)
New member
Username: Sparky
Post Number: 49
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 5:56 pm: | |
Paul:
I had the same problem with my 328.
I kept thinking the socket was hitting on something, but the plugs are a bastard size--try a 18mm socket.
Mark |
Paul Jeffery (Peajay)
New member
Username: Peajay
Post Number: 36
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 2:22 pm: | |
Yes you are correct Craig, I didn't have any of the small tools in the kit when I bought the car, in fact I didn't even know there was a plug tool in the kit. Does anyone know of another tool that does the job ? |
Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member
Username: Craigfl
Post Number: 590
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:05 am: | |
Of course the tool that came with the car works perfect.... along with the u-joint adapter. I'm assuming you don't have it? |
Paul Jeffery (Peajay)
New member
Username: Peajay
Post Number: 34
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:02 am: | |
This sounds like a really dumb question, but what type of tool do you need to get out the spark plugs on a 328? I have what I consider the regular small size and large size hex plug sockets and neither of them fit. I don't have a replacement plug yet so I can't measure the hex size, but I am very surprised thet that neither of the spark plug sockets I have does the job. Can anyone help by posting a photo of what I need.
thanks |