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Rob Baylor (Baylor308)
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 11:36 pm:   

Verelle,

I didn't know that some dino based lubes can cause plastics to become brittle.

The reason I used the synthetic grease was I notice a big difference in window speed between warm and cold days before changing the lubricant. From my past experience nothing comes close to synthetics when it comes to viscosity stability over a large temperature range.

It sounds like I should re-do the window lifts using white lithium grease.

I'm not looking forward to that.

Thanks for the heads up.

Rob
Kelly (Tifosi1)
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Username: Tifosi1

Post Number: 615
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 9:29 pm:   

Clean all the connections with electrical cleaner, I found a big difference.

Kelly
Verell Boaen (Verell)
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Username: Verell

Post Number: 728
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 8:28 pm:   

Rob,
I don't know about Mobil1 or other synthetic lubes, but some dino based lubes cause plastics to become brittle.

The recommended lube for this application is white lithium grease.

HAH!! The most common descriptions for what people find when they disassemble the window drive is either 'almost cured epoxy' or 'cosmolene'. Taffy also fits and this is the 1st time I've heard it used!!

Search the archives for my (long & detailed) post on the window drive service procedure.
philip loulis (Ria)
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Post Number: 7
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 8:25 pm:   

i, want to thank all of you for the info, i, lube the mechanism it is stil slow i, think i, can, live with it.
Rob Baylor (Baylor308)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 10:21 pm:   

I second Verell's advice.

About 6 months ago I disassembled both driver and passenger window drive mechanisms and found a green substance that had the consistency of taffy. After cleaning I re-lubed with Mobil 1 Synthetic grease.

Be sure to also disassemble, clean, and lube all of the plastic rollers that the cable goes around. If memory serves there are four (4) rollers per door.

I also pinched the female end of the window motor wire connectors, to ensure a good contact, and re-assembled with grease as well.

My windows are now just slightly slower than the windows on my Mitsubishi, and did not require an additional relay.

I used the diagram out of the parts manual as a reference for re-assembling the window lift cables.
Verell Boaen (Verell)
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Username: Verell

Post Number: 721
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 9:49 pm:   

Philp,
Only do the rewiring AFTER you've done the window drive mechanism clean & lube procedure. Otherwise you're risking smoking your motors.

You may also find you don't need to do the relay & rewiring.
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Post Number: 356
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 1:40 pm:   

Solution can be found here:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/2175.html?997715112

philip loulis (Ria)
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Username: Ria

Post Number: 6
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 8:52 am:   

where can i, geet the relays for my slow windows is , there, a, part no, what wires have to be cut, what wires go to relays. on ths car i, have ( 2 ) yellow on pasenger side and ( 2 ) green on drivers side. can sonebody tell my on how to conect the wires. need help on, this. thanks.

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