| Author | Message | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2371 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yeah really, a 10 year old could drive a car today. I doubt you could say the same about a 1950s-1960s car. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2485 Registered: 2-2001 |
"Relaxed touring." Not to beat a dead horse here, excuse the pun, but the phrase just doesn't seem to fit the passion of Ferrari. Sports driving, the feel of the road, the action of the wheel in your hand are some of the things I don't relate to touring. I guess though you are correct in that many things are getting soft for the modern day driver even a Ferrari. | ||
| Bill Sebestyen (Bill308)
Junior Member Username: Bill308 Post Number: 161 Registered: 5-2001 |
The worst steering car I ever owned was a TR-3A, three of them actually. They kept rusting away underneath me and I kept transfering the moderatly massaged engine to a replacement car. Anyway, the settering box used a cylindrical cam acting on a pin, attached to a lever, that moved the tie rod. Good replacement steering boxes were out of my price range, but some were better than others, but all were terrible. With a fast 16:1 steering ratio and a small diameter steering wheel, what you had was a perscription for shoulder and arm fatigue. Now this is not necessarily a bad thing when I was a young buck, but I would never accept it today. It really needed power steering, or at least recirculating ball steering or better yet rack and pinion steering. While it was a bear to park, anything above about 5 mph was ok and at a 100+ mph the lift forces made it a shear delight. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1803 Registered: 12-2000 |
It's still there Magoo, always will be, but the classic Ferraris that do use power steering are the ones meant for relaxed touring. ("Relaxed" in Ferrari terms...  ) | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2466 Registered: 2-2001 |
You're not gettin' soft on us are you Peter? Where's your old sport driver connection to road attitude? | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2354 Registered: 2-2001 |
Although the 2800lb 360 has it too... And so does the 1300lb F1 car... I guess it was inevitable really. In a new car I guess I wouldn't mind it, it is a lot more agile in a street car. Have any of you guys gotten really out and tried to bring the rear back in, turn the wheel as fast as you can which is still slow with no PS. In my jeep, granted front engined, I can do it one handed no problem, the 308 two handed is quite a bit of work. And in F1 they need it to overcome the gyroscopic force of two wheels in a 130mph sweeper. But you guys are right that as far as a fun car it is a little taking away, but so is the evolution of technology I guess. I kind of stand between having it and not. Don't want it on the 308, but on a 355 or 360 I wouldn't want to be without it since it reflects the more modern cars. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1799 Registered: 12-2000 |
No kidding, but it sure does beat wrestling the wheel of a 4000lb. car (bad enough that most of these classic Ferraris have had their steering characteristics described as "truck-like")... | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2452 Registered: 2-2001 |
I may be saying something wrong here but I can't imagine a Ferrari with power steering. It takes away the relationship between the driver and the road IMO. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 1793 Registered: 12-2000 |
The 365 GTC/4 has power steering (one of the better features of this car compared to a Daytona). If I'm not mistaken, the 365 California has PS as well (one of the largest and heaviest Ferraris built). | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2413 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jim I think it is safe to say that your car does not have power steering. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 346 Registered: 7-2001 |
Damn, if this car has power steering, it hasn't worked since I've owned it! :-) | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2291 Registered: 2-2001 |
I thought it was the 355 out of the 3 series? I would imagine the 400 would be just about the first one, but that's just a guess. | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 1066 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think the 348 is the first to have P/S. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2284 Registered: 2-2001 |
Not to hijack here, but where is the power steering pump on a Ferrari? Do they run fluid lines all the way from the engine to steering rack? Or do they run vacuum or something? | ||
| Edward Gault (Irfgt)
Intermediate Member Username: Irfgt Post Number: 1062 Registered: 2-2001 |
Maybe the power steering is low on fluid. If it walks like a Duck---- | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 343 Registered: 7-2001 |
Don't think it's the alternator doing it's job, this is a noise you can't help but notice, it's LOUD. Hasn't happened before. I'll check the belt tightness though. | ||
| magoo (Magoo)
Intermediate Member Username: Magoo Post Number: 2397 Registered: 2-2001 |
Sounds like your Alternator. It makes that sound until it charges the battery full and the regulator shuts down. A sort of whining noise. You probably never noticed it before. This was discussed on this chat line not to long ago. | ||
| Steve (Steve)
Junior Member Username: Steve Post Number: 139 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jim it sounds like a loose belt. I've noticed on my 308 when I replaced the AC compressor the belt needed to be adjusted twice. After getting it tight for the 1st time I found that after a few miles it started to squeel a bit and needed a re-tightening. Also watch out for the waterpump belt because to tight it will take out the pump. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 342 Registered: 7-2001 |
My car has recently started making the same noise a power steering pump makes when it's low on fluid. I just got it back from the 30k w/ a new AC compressor and the water pump is only 7 mos old, I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. It mostly happens when it's cold, and by the time I get the rear end opened to take a look, it goes away. Ideas? |