| Author | Message | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2002 |
Yes... If my car had no problem, I had no time to post a message to enjoy it!!!!  | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2002 |
Dave, Bret's point is right on... nobody posts a thread saying "Damn, my car worked perfectly again today." My 360 has been far less trouble than my new Porsche 911 (and that's fortunate since I have no warranty on the 360). My 360 and M3 have been about equal reliability. And I drive the c#@p out of both. The F1 is a bit finnicky... and I am sure some take longer to get "in sync" with it than others... as with anything. If you act out of sync with it, you can confuse it badly. I stalled it twice the first week by trying to "help" it... at which point I realized I was just confusing it and making a small mistake into a large one. I now have absolutely no problems with stalling it, backing into parking places, easing up hills, etc. Occasionally when not paying attention, I'll start from a stop sign a little too gentle and get that little stutter start. Without Consumer-Reports-like broad-based surveys, you can't really know the true reliability. Certainly, forums such as this will give you a skewed impression... any car, any forum... even a Toyota forum. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2463 Registered: 2-2001 |
You gotta remember that often times this site is people's place to vent about problems. I would have to say that in reality the benefits far outweigh the costs. | ||
| Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Junior Member Username: Davewapinski Post Number: 173 Registered: 8-2001 |
One concern I have with Ferraris after reading the chats: I do not want a dream car to quickly turn into a nightmare. Collecting cars is fine. However, one post said it all for me in something like the following words: after a hard day at the office, a 45 minute drive in the Ferrari brings smiles to the face and is better than any psychiatrist. This is the main thing I am interested in. I am sure similar emotions can be gained from other cars. What brings this to mind is reading the recent posts about problems with TRs and 360s in the General and Technical Sections (plus other posts in the past). The 360 is suppose to be the pinnacle of Ferrari�s technical skills. There are not that many 360s in the US. I was considering ordering a 360. However, to have that many electrical problems and to be that unreliable when new seems to me to be unacceptable. Ferrari has had a long time to work out electrical problems. Years ago I was involved in documenting a test where the US Army was studying ways to unload ship containers if there were no ports. It was an interesting several weeks on the beach (and got paid). The Army had several hovercraft. Places like Hong Kong can get them to work fine. However, the Army�s hovercraft (at that time) required 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of use. One hovercraft they could not get to work at all. Will buying a Ferrari be the car equivalent of 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of use? From reading some of the posts, it seems so. Ferraris have to be some of the most beautiful cars made and of course the prestige. I want to have fun; I do not want a nightmare. Will a Ferrari be a constant money and headache pit? What is the reality? | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hi Sunny, I tried the same thing but mine didn't start  And my problem was not F1 gear box but some loose electric circuit.... Besides, my embarassment was pretty bad, too because my car was in front of big glass window of the restaurant I had dinner at that night | ||
| Sunny Hirai (Sunny)
New member Username: Sunny Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2002 |
Don't know if you've solved this problem yet but I had a similar problem where my 360 F1 car stalled while pulling into an underground parking lot. Frankly, I have been surprised on numerous occasions that the F1 would stall though I've learned to avoid the things that cause the car to stall. At any rate, I COULD NOT get the car started. Finally, after putting the car into neutral (it was locked in 1 or 2, can't remember which) THEN putting it into reverse, the F1 system unlocked itself. I don't know if you've tried this but the answer was quite simple (though the embarassment was pretty high as I had blocked off the sidewalk). Sunny | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
New member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2002 |
This had happened to a guy in Addison with his 360 F-1-very pissed, he had to roll the thing out of the garage because the tow truck could not fit. I am not sure if he still has it. I am glad you got yours fixed. | ||
| Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member Username: Eurocardoc Post Number: 263 Registered: 11-2001 |
I meant for ME to get things right, as I say the F1 cars are only in occassionaly, so I have to relearn procedures, in the shop manouvering around, the 'box sometimes grabs neutral and stays, I always think it's broken! Then I remember how to operate it, an English mind driving an Italian car. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2002 |
It was loose electric circuit connection.............. even not a clutch or gear box problem.... I got the car back today Thanks for advice | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2002 |
Thanks Brian. I thought it was my operation error.... but no one couldn't start it... I read manual myself and couldn't solve it. Neither did the dealer. What do you mean "get things right"? Thanks. | ||
| Brian stewart (Eurocardoc)
Member Username: Eurocardoc Post Number: 262 Registered: 11-2001 |
The F1 system can be very easily "confused" at which point it turns stubborn on us. The problem is usually operator error, read carefully through the owners manual to be sure. Each time I get one through the shop I have to be very methodical or it will just stop and sit in the middle of the shop until I get things right. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
New member Username: Tako Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2002 |
Since my 360 spyder didn't start in front of a restaurant last Saturday, which was 5th day of my Ferrari life. I finally took it to Service Monday morning. It's been in a dock for 2 days so far. They haven't figured out the problem yet, it seems... It just stopped working suddenly and just "N" blinks. I thought it's some F1 shift failure or clutch problem. Fortunately the gear was in "N" and I could trucked it back to home but I am still wondering what the problem is and what kind of work it needs to be fixed... I just wanna know when I can start enjoying to drive my baby again. Has anyone had the same problems with F1 360s?? I appreciate any kind of information or advice. |